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Re: Optimism

#31

Author here. Ask Me Anything.

Q: Why the heavy-ass .md? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12299756)

A: I use an OS X presentation application called DeckSet. DeckSet uses markdown files as its persistence model. That is very convenient for a number of reasons, including the fact that I can manage my presentations with git/github, something that is inconvenient with apps that use a proprietary binary format.

The presentation is available in a more conventional rendering here: https://speakerdeck.com/raganwald/optimism

Re: Optimism

#33

Author here. Ask Me Anything.

> Optimists explain good things as being personal, general, and permanent, and explain away bad things as being impersonal, specific, and temporary. Can't this be taken to unhealthy extremes? Sounds exactly like how narcissists think. Just look at Trump. He claims personal responsibility for his successes, but his failures are always one-time events that were other people's fault. Where should one draw the line?

My understanding is that narcissism is a slightly different thing:

  > Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a long-term pattern of abnormal
  > behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, an
  > excessive need for admiration, and a lack of understanding of others' feelings.
Seligman claims that people who have the "optimistic" asymmetry are happier and more productive than those who have the "pessimistic" asymmetry. Unfortunately, he makes no claims about other aspects of people's personalities, such as whether they are ethical.

I think you can be optimistic without having an exaggerated feeling of self-importance, and certainly it has nothing to do with a need for admiration or lacking understanding for the feelings of others.

So... I think the answer as to where to draw the line is, "If you are aware enough to worry about the line, you don't need the line."

Re: Optimism

#34
The thing we tend to overlook about our inner dialog is that we actually have very little control over our thoughts. You know you have a problem when they become suicidal, because healthy minds simply do not have them.

But even healthy minds will be pessimistic or optimistic from day to day. The author suggests the explanations we think of dictate our mood, which is true, but also our mood already dictates those thoughts. Our explanations tend to be negative when we're feeling negative. You're just sad already.

The question is this: Is your explanation an objective description of truth, or is it an honest expression of your mood? And it's almost always both. Most explicit negative or positive explanations are also implicit expressions of your mood. Our inner dialog is always emotional, so when we reason with ourselves, we're already reasoning with our emotions, except, they have already happened.

And here is how it works. Intellectual people are capable of coming up with an infinite number of reasons. Give it enough thought and you'll find yourself cataloging reason after reason. The sleight of hand happens when we choose the reason to go with. If you let your gut choose, you'll go with the one that most closely aligns with how you feel, because it will physically feel right. It just clicks. So we reason because of our mood, and further towards that mood. And if you have a working brain, you are an intellectual person.

And here is the common misconception. A reason does not have to be subjective or false to be emotional. All your reasons can be true. The problem is with your selection. Think misuse of statistics [1]. All your data can be true, but can be made to say whatever you want. Conclusions can be written first, then made true. If we can do it with statistics, we can certainly do it with our perception. And this article along with Dr. Martin Seligman methods basically covers the various ways in which we do just that.

So whenever possible just make your mood explicit. Monitor your mood, and take hints from the implicit emotions in whatever thoughts that are about something else. If they're in any way negative or positive, then that's already a clue, because if you think about it, nature isn't inherently either. And if you're down, act on it, don't reason with it. Just hit mute, and physically do things that make you happy (I splurge on a hard root beer or a premium cup of coffee). If your body and mind are healthy, this will work every time. If nothing you do makes you happy, don't feel guilty, just go see a doctor.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics

(right when I try to block HN to concentrate on work, I find articles like these, and am heavily rewarded again for my procrastination :)

Re: Optimism

#35
>I LIVE WITH Depression

The word 'depression' is so over used by everyone from a angry teenager, a new mom or a dying old man that it doesn't hold any meaning to me at all. I now mentally equate Depression with attention seeking self-importance. I feel absolutely no sympathy for anyone 'suffering from depression' these days because I've heard it so many times.

Re: Optimism

#36
I think this might be one of those times where the title might lead to confusion in the comment section and leads people a bit astray.

I saw this talk in person at Nordic Ruby, and it was one of the best talks I've seen (and I've seen a bunch). Strangely enough, I don't really think back and think much about "optimism" when I think of the talk, though, even though the talk is about optimists.

My takeaway was the type of tooling and thought processes that are advantageous when approaching problems and conflict. In many talks — mine included — people will say something along the lines of "be nice to your teammates and leave good feedback", for example, but that's really vague. Reg's talk helped me understand what that type of feedback might be, how it can be explicitly phrased, and how I can give concrete feedback without being antagonistic. I think it makes for a more effective argument, especially when building product, but also it just makes for friendlier humans.

Yeah, this does lead to "optimistic people", hence the title, but I just thought it was weird to see discussion here about the merits of positive people versus negative people. I think the talk's a much bigger dialogue about interacting with humans and, possibly more importantly, yourself.

Anyway, I really liked the talk, and as much as this Markdown is great at getting the point across, this is one of the talks I'd suggest actually watching. \m/

Re: Optimism

#38

>I LIVE WITH Depression The word 'depression' is so over used by everyone from a angry teenager, a new mom or a dying old man that it doesn't hold any meaning to me at all. I now mentally equate Depression with attention seeking self-importance. I feel absolutely no sympathy for anyone 'suffering from depression' these days because I've heard it so many times.

The entire point of the presentation was to talk about my journey to the place where I think this comment says far more about you than it does about me.

Re: Optimism

#39
post #6

Let me give an optimistic feedback because Reginald's work is well worth it. Reg's essay and his combinator book have had a huge influence on my career and my way of thinking as a programmer. I really recommend everyone here to take a look at the combinator book at http://combinators.info As to the point of the presentation, it's an interesting view of things. Making a note of my explanations explanations is somethin…

Reginald's writing is of the kind where you immediately know you're learning from an incredibly smart and creative guy. I'm somewhat sad to have lost him to the JS-world, but at least he has expanded into 'soft' topics like management. As it turns out he's not just analytically brilliant but also full of humanity.

To have done all he has with 'a frontal lobe tied behind his back' makes it even more impressive.

Re: Optimism

#40

>I LIVE WITH Depression The word 'depression' is so over used by everyone from a angry teenager, a new mom or a dying old man that it doesn't hold any meaning to me at all. I now mentally equate Depression with attention seeking self-importance. I feel absolutely no sympathy for anyone 'suffering from depression' these days because I've heard it so many times.

Do you feel no sympathy for the crippled because the term is often used to describe things other than literal disability?
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