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Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by nommm-nommm »

savanaly wrote: post #117
nommm-nommm wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's with the current cultural obsession with spending every single moment with ones children? How can this possibly be healthy for the children (never mind the parents)?

I was going to make a comment along the lines you have here, but I held off because I think you are mistaking his argument. He just is talking about the memories and time you, the parent, can't get back, not any deleterious effects on the child. You're right that people in general way overrate the importance of high interaction parenting on a child's development, but I don't think you're right if you're saying the pa…

What's wrong with having memories and time that have nothing to do with child raising? Having a balance between child raising activities and non-child raising activities?

Some people want to work outside the home.

You aren't handing off your children to a stranger never to see them again.

I went to a babysitter during the workday for a few years. I bonded with her very strongly and it was nothing but a positive experience.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by exstudent2 »

amyjess wrote: post #115
exstudent2 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure that having both parents work and raising your child via nanny is the current obsession and having a stay at home parent was normal human operating behavior for ~200,000 years.

Maybe for the lower classes, but the upper class has always had nannies raise their children.

Correct, but the OP was about middle class people where both parents work. That's new.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by sotojuan »

amyjess wrote: post #114
rdlecler1 wrote: post #21

Sounds more like my friends doing ibanking in NY than my friends doing startups in SF.

Yes, part of this definitely reminded me of my cousin in NYC. Her husband is some big shot at Goldman Sachs, and their toddlers are raised by a nanny and being pushed into elite schools (yes, as toddlers). Their attitude towards restaurants is basically the same, and her husband has a similar lack of time (he works all his waking hours on the weekdays... and then crashes on the weekend). Oh, and the kicker: they shop…

I went to school in NYC and I always thought it takes a special kind of person to do finance. My friend's brother works from 9am until 7-8pm, sometimes more, everyday. Yet my friend is determined to follow in his footsteps. I can't imagine doing that.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by kidsthesedays »

caseysoftware wrote: post #118
rob wrote: post #97

This is so sad, especially the part in the beginning about hiring a nanny to watch their kids as they grow up. You can't get those memories and time back. But hey, you have a WiFi coffee maker and Roomba.

PG's article on this one was great. You only get ~8 Christmases where the "magic" is still there for kids... from roughly 2-10 and then it's just another day of gifts and (potentially) envy. I'm traveling a ton right now with an 18 month old and dying to get back there. Edit: PG said it here: http://www.paulgraham.com/vb.html

Can you elaborate on the Christmas thing? I have a very different view than you on Christmas "magic" than you, I believe.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by geebee »

aedron wrote: post #75
DeadReckoning wrote: post #18

You guys take yourselves too seriously. I think this article is funny as hell. "You briefly use mobile Safari to browse for Vipassana retreats — you hear a 10 day retreat in Soquel may be the ticket to shake things up. You realize it’s not going to be possible. You download a meditation app. You turn it off. You don’t have time." TOO REAL

The fact that a lot of posters here don't even realize it is satire speaks more to the point than anything.

Well, satire like Kafka is satire.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by throwaway2016a »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #100
rob wrote: post #97

This is so sad, especially the part in the beginning about hiring a nanny to watch their kids as they grow up. You can't get those memories and time back. But hey, you have a WiFi coffee maker and Roomba.

What's with the current cultural obsession with spending every single moment with ones children? How can this possibly be healthy for the children (never mind the parents)?

We send our daughter to daycare [1] and I spend every minute I can outside of work bonding with her. There is some truth to it, they only stay babies so long and parents should enjoy it. Spending time with them is one of the magical things that makes it worth it. Without that, what's the point?

[1] No nanny for us... I'm a CTO in a duel-income house and I can't afford that no idea how this character would.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by ascendingPig »

kderbe wrote: post #27

This article is far too on-the-nose for my taste. As an exaggerated critique of Silicon Valley, I much rather enjoyed Anna Wiener's "Uncanny Valley". Article: https://nplusonemag.com/issue-25/on-the-fringe/uncanny-valle... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11565691

Uncanny Valley used specifics to satirical and humorous effect, whereas this post just deployed brand names every 10 words. I was really bored.

Re: This Is Your Life in Silicon Valley

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Post by hifumi »

kderbe wrote: post #27

This article is far too on-the-nose for my taste. As an exaggerated critique of Silicon Valley, I much rather enjoyed Anna Wiener's "Uncanny Valley". Article: https://nplusonemag.com/issue-25/on-the-fringe/uncanny-valle... Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11565691

This article seems too far removed though. It's hard to relate to much in it.
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