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Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Why didn't they just update hangouts? I actually use hangouts for video calls with relative frequency, and I wish it was better adapted to changes in network speed like they say Duo is. I think it would be better if "Duo" was just integrated into hangouts as an update. I like hangouts because it allows me to use one app for voice, text and video.

Well it wouldn't be Google with any fewer than 4 semi-competing apps in their own portfolio.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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At least it doesn't only run on Apple devices, like the complete joke that is FaceTime.

When it comes to shitty interoperability, Google takes the cake. No one ever claimed FaceTime works on your android. They wanted to open source it and got fucked on patents. Try using gmail to send a regular iCalendar format invite to an event. If they just happen to have used that email for a google account, fuck you it ends up in the Google calendar account they likely didn't know they even had, and never goes to t…

Is there any more info on trying to open source FaceTime? I've never heard of this before and seems interesting.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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So you rather Duo not exist and keep not having an app that you can use with both of your parents?

Because there are absolutely no other video chat apps in existence on both Android and iOS? Duo is the only possible option? The point is given the many, many other video chat apps that do already exist and fill this function, several of them produced by Google, what does Google think it's doing bringing out yet another one.

I thought Google already has a product that does video calls across iOS and Android... Hangouts. I don't understand why they are doing this independently of a product they already have.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Can't they just put a camera behind the screen? Been waiting for this for over a decade

Now that people are coming up with ways to put people's real facial expressions in VR, most video calls are probably going to be replaced with avatars generated from your face that use your facial expressions captured by the front-facing camera. https://vimeo.com/156034648

Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace has a remarkable little snippet on this. I'll try to find it and respond back.

Edit: http://declineofscarcity.com/?page_id=2527

Published in 1996

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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The problem is that I want such an app to exist (and thrive), but that history taught me not to get my hopes up when it comes to Google products. Chances are they will fail to gain a significant userbase and/or the product (better yet project) will be discontinued.

I don't see a better app at the moment since Skype got bought by Microsoft and all the encryption got nerfed. Although I get where you're coming from. It would also be nice if all products discontinued by google would just get open sourced. They are basically saying it's useless to them so why not let somebody else give a try.

> They are basically saying it's useless to them so why not let somebody else give a try.

Their standard reason is that most products use tons of internal API calls/private modules and it would take a lot of hours to replace those with code they're willing to release.

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Oh yes, Googles insistence to the horrible Chrome plugin (and ONLY chrome plugin, you're SoL if you want to use any other browser) instead of a slim desktop app like iMessage/Telegram is pretty much the reason why I've abandoned Hangouts.

I don't use a chrome plugin, hangouts works great inside gmail which I always keep open, or from https://hangouts.google.com/ .

I mean, it's missing features like searching by name (there's a workaround by going to calls, putting in the name, and choosing SMS) and other things, but it's worth it to be able to type and copy paste texts.

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I'll trust that Google knows what they're doing when implementing encryption.

The question is not whether Google knows how to do proper end-to-end-encryption, the question is whether they want to do it. They have a clear incentive to not do it properly, which is being able to sift through your data to sell it to advertisers.

Would be an interesting test to start chatting on an well established account (a few years old) about something you have never talked about before and see if you get relevant ads.

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WhatsApp is not specially an emerging market product, I think it is the most popular chat app in a bunch of European countries.

Yea I think the US is definitely an outlier there; Out of the couple dozen countries I've visited recently outside of the US, Whatsapp seems like hands-down the most popular messaging app (whereas in the US, almost no one I know uses it unless they're in frequent contact with a non-trivial number of foreigners).

I think a big reason for this is that in Europe people frequently move between countries, eg for school or work or vacation. This often means changing SIM cards and local phone number.

So it makes sense to use whatsapp because it's data based and you can keep the same account across SIM card changes.

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