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Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Wow this is so much the future... Between my 4g video native capability, skype (remember), facetime, etc. that was missing. Thank you Google for putting well-paid engineers to solvant this.

How does this add any value above existing products that do the same?

parent is being sarcastic.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

#172

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> Hangouts is able to mix voice, video and text just fine. For varying values of "just fine". For me, hangouts is probably the worst performing app on mobile, desktop and tablet. It's so bad that even Skype shames it. And FaceTime...well let's not even compare.

At least it doesn't only run on Apple devices, like the complete joke that is FaceTime.

You'll need to explain that, I genuinely don't know what you say it.

Facetime is just a feature. It's a calling option in contacts and any phone call to another iPhone can be turned into a facetime call at the push of a button. That means you don't even need to think about it. There's no install process, no configuration, no account to set up, it's just there.

Furthermore because it can rely on guaranteed hardware features it has the best compression, bandwidth utilization and image quality in the business. If it's a joke, I'm not sure who it is that's doing the laughing.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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post #7

Is there anything currently that works similarly without a google or Facebook account? My dad is so computer/phone illiterate that he cannot/won't register for either of these. It should work across iPhone/Android. I ask because video calling between my son and my dad is no longer as simple as FaceTime after I switched to Android

I had suggested Wire [1] in a comment above [2]. It's cross platform, has cross device sync, and end-to-end encryption. Sign up can be using the phone number or an email address.

[1]: https://www.wire.com

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12296477

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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post #153

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I'll trust that Google knows what they're doing when implementing encryption.

Sure, but I also don't trust them to not harvest data from calls by side-channels for advertising purposes.

And if they were open sourcing it, you'd say there's no way to know they're not doing that in the compiled release.

Reverse Engineering is the only viable way of determining this stuff. I'd love for it to be open source but it has nothing to do with this.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

#175

Why would one use this when similar functionality (Hangouts video streaming) has just been killed and moved to Youtube Live?

Video Hangouts has been killed? Isn't Hangouts a business-centric offering, I haven't heard that its been killed. Its a large part of "Chrome for Work."

At any rate these have different use cases, one is enterprise focused and the other is mobile only.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Yea I think the US is definitely an outlier there; Out of the couple dozen countries I've visited recently outside of the US, Whatsapp seems like hands-down the most popular messaging app (whereas in the US, almost no one I know uses it unless they're in frequent contact with a non-trivial number of foreigners).

A major difference is that in the US text messages and MMS are usually free, so there's not a lot of pressure to move to a different communication medium. In lots of other countries you pay several cents for each individual text message and MMS cost several tens of cents. And this is for domestic messages. With international messages (which you often use because you're country is likely to be much smaller than the US…

At least here in the UK SMS' are usually free (or very cheap) but whatsapp is popular since it's very easy to use, allows group chats/voice messages and works well when the connection isn't great. But mostly because it works on virtually every platform (even some feature phones), so you can assume that basically everyone has it.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Someone should build a meta video calling app: Make a normal phone call, and if the app detects that both parties have a common video calling app installed on their devices, the meta app notifies the caller ("Press * for video") and helps reconnect the call with the video calling app.

Hmm that's how iPhone works.

And that is an open standard that works with Skype, Duo and other non-apple alternatives?

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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post #16

End-to-end encrypted but not opensource is just trusting that it's really (well)encrypted. Thanks, but no thanks.

I'll trust that Google knows what they're doing when implementing encryption.

The question is not whether Google knows how to do proper end-to-end-encryption, the question is whether they want to do it. They have a clear incentive to not do it properly, which is being able to sift through your data to sell it to advertisers.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

#180

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Some searching yielded https://appear.in/ (I'm not affiliated with that website)

Which by the way works very well for our daily meetings.

Seconded, I've been very impressed with this service.
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