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Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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[Recent ML work on Gaze Manipulation]( http://www.creativeai.net/posts/6fokKr6xuytqsnT9F/deepwarp-p... ) [Online interactive demo]( http://sites.skoltech.ru/compvision/projects/deepwarp/ )

is it just me or the examples are just creepy ? anyway I think its a minor issue. I am more worried about if I am dressed / groomed appropriately for the video call rather than if I am having constant eye contact.

confirmed creepy. not just you.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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Have they announced when it will be discontinued?

A bit cynical but that was my initial thought as well. It's sad because FaceTime exists for so long and is so easy to use and I'd really like to have an app that I can use with both of my parents (one Android, one iOS). But I see Google failing with this already.

If we will have Facetime and this, the correct name to use is Duopoly.

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End-to-end encrypted but not opensource is just trusting that it's really (well)encrypted. Thanks, but no thanks.

I'll trust that Google knows what they're doing when implementing encryption.

Sure, but I also don't trust them to not harvest data from calls by side-channels for advertising purposes.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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I'm going to presume that this isn't available to anyone who has a Google Apps account, as that has been the trend of nearly all product launches by Google recently. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/play/86WVa8b_... Not available to Apps accounts: * Google Family Library Sharing (Android apps sharing) * Google Play Music Family Sharing (music collection sharing) * Project Fi * Google Spaces * YouTube Re…

This one actually says no account required. Seems to use your phone number, like WhatsApp etc. do

(that also probably means it'll never leave mobile to be usable on desktops, like Hangouts?!)

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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It's already bad enough that I have a row of chat apps (WhatsApp, Messenger, Hangouts, Skype, Slack, Telegram etc.) on my phone because I can't get everyone I know to agree on one app and now, Google's trying to get me to add yet another icon to that list! I love Telegram but I couldn't get more than a few friends to try it out and even then, no one checks their Telegram anymore because none of THEIR friends are on i…

Someone should build a meta video calling app: Make a normal phone call, and if the app detects that both parties have a common video calling app installed on their devices, the meta app notifies the caller ("Press * for video") and helps reconnect the call with the video calling app.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit cynical but that was my initial thought as well. It's sad because FaceTime exists for so long and is so easy to use and I'd really like to have an app that I can use with both of my parents (one Android, one iOS). But I see Google failing with this already.

So you rather Duo not exist and keep not having an app that you can use with both of your parents?

Because there are absolutely no other video chat apps in existence on both Android and iOS? Duo is the only possible option?

The point is given the many, many other video chat apps that do already exist and fill this function, several of them produced by Google, what does Google think it's doing bringing out yet another one.

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I don't see a better app at the moment since Skype got bought by Microsoft and all the encryption got nerfed. Although I get where you're coming from. It would also be nice if all products discontinued by google would just get open sourced. They are basically saying it's useless to them so why not let somebody else give a try.

"better app" can just be an app with less features, that's more buggy, that's going to be around in ten years. Mom and dad don't need to go learning a new app every couple of years. Video chat has been around since forever. Having a major player like Google wade into the fray, destroy all the small fry, then bail out (as it has done many times before)? Not good for the market.

Skype was launched in 2003, and IIRC was primarily voice for the first couple of years. That brings us up to the 10 years that's apparently the required expected longevity to even consider an app.

Whatever small fry exists on the market, they have survived the Skype juggernaut, FaceTime, Google Hangouts and Facebook chat. I find it highly unlikely that Google Duo is going to be a uniquely destructive force.

Re: Google Duo, a simple 1-to-1 video calling app

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End-to-end encrypted but not opensource is just trusting that it's really (well)encrypted. Thanks, but no thanks.

I'll trust that Google knows what they're doing when implementing encryption.

I'll probably trust them on the encryption bit, but it's less clear they know what they're doing...
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