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Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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Food waste is very small problem. If it was eliminated there would be 1.5 times as much food. Bigger problem is eating out (restaurants, fast food) where 90% of money is wasted. Or buying expensive ingredients like meat or very processed foods. 10 times more food can be bought if choosing wisely. I pay maybe 4$-5$/day for food and I routinely throw away half. That's 2$/day wasted. But eating at restaurant wastes so m…

How much time do you spend grocery shopping and cooking? If you make 100$ per hour it doesnt take long before eating out is more economical.

but that equation doesnt take into account the enjoyment one gets from eating a fine meal at a restaurant or at home, or the quality of the food (perceived or actual) that one consumes. you may believe calories are calories regardless or you may not. so many more things factor into that equation. long term health (pro and con) for example.

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #11
post #6

Food waste is very small problem. If it was eliminated there would be 1.5 times as much food. Bigger problem is eating out (restaurants, fast food) where 90% of money is wasted. Or buying expensive ingredients like meat or very processed foods. 10 times more food can be bought if choosing wisely. I pay maybe 4$-5$/day for food and I routinely throw away half. That's 2$/day wasted. But eating at restaurant wastes so m…

Eating at restaurants is not a waste of money, it is much more efficient for many people. At a restaurant, you can get food much more quickly, and with no cleanup time afterwards; if you value your time, this can quite easily turn out to be a cost savings compared to home-prepared meals (especially if you value variety). It used to be more common to purchase restaurant food, and home-cooked meals were a luxury for th…

> It used to be more common to purchase restaurant food, and home-cooked meals were a luxury for the rich a few hundred years ago, but income and sales tax have imposed higher transaction costs, and made restaurant food more expensive.

The point you tried to make with that seems twisted. Home made food was the norm, so when something like MacDonald started, it was actually not junk food, but more like food that only the rich could afford.

In the present environment, even with income and sales tax, restaurant food is cheap - relatively, of course. You can get a lot for $2 USD. The problem is that type of food is bad for you in the long term.

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #21

Nations should have mandatory farming practice for half a year or so like they have mandatory military service. I think such practice will be eye opening on how we treat food.

Effectively enslaving people to prove a point won't help and will probably make people resentful to the point that was trying to be made.

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #6

Food waste is very small problem. If it was eliminated there would be 1.5 times as much food. Bigger problem is eating out (restaurants, fast food) where 90% of money is wasted. Or buying expensive ingredients like meat or very processed foods. 10 times more food can be bought if choosing wisely. I pay maybe 4$-5$/day for food and I routinely throw away half. That's 2$/day wasted. But eating at restaurant wastes so m…

cannot agree more on eating out is such a burn or waste.

2 KFC meals = 12 kilos of rice or pasta = 50 meals at least ?

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #9

It's nice (for a European) to read an article with metric measurements. But: > "Our family of four managed to get our weekly organic waste below the five-kilogram mark, ... This works out to about 250 grams per week for each family member" Isn't that 1250 grams per week per person?

There's more than 1 day in a week. Seems they calculated it for a workweek 5000g/4people/5days = 250

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #24
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eating at restaurants is not a waste of money, it is much more efficient for many people. At a restaurant, you can get food much more quickly, and with no cleanup time afterwards; if you value your time, this can quite easily turn out to be a cost savings compared to home-prepared meals (especially if you value variety). It used to be more common to purchase restaurant food, and home-cooked meals were a luxury for th…

> It used to be more common to purchase restaurant food, and home-cooked meals were a luxury for the rich a few hundred years ago, but income and sales tax have imposed higher transaction costs, and made restaurant food more expensive. The point you tried to make with that seems twisted. Home made food was the norm, so when something like MacDonald started, it was actually not junk food, but more like food that only…

No, street food and restaurants were very common historically, (at least) going back to Ancient Greece and Egypt.[1] In those times the poor often did not own kitchens or cooking implements, and spent so much time working that they did not have time to cook.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopolium

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_food#History

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

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post #9

It's nice (for a European) to read an article with metric measurements. But: > "Our family of four managed to get our weekly organic waste below the five-kilogram mark, ... This works out to about 250 grams per week for each family member" Isn't that 1250 grams per week per person?

over a kilo per week per person seems like a lot

Re: Why we throw away more than 6M tonnes of groceries every year (2015)

#30
post #6

Food waste is very small problem. If it was eliminated there would be 1.5 times as much food. Bigger problem is eating out (restaurants, fast food) where 90% of money is wasted. Or buying expensive ingredients like meat or very processed foods. 10 times more food can be bought if choosing wisely. I pay maybe 4$-5$/day for food and I routinely throw away half. That's 2$/day wasted. But eating at restaurant wastes so m…

How much time do you spend grocery shopping and cooking? If you make 100$ per hour it doesnt take long before eating out is more economical.

I think it also depends on if $100 / hr can be extended beyond 8 hrs /day and 5 days a week. Often those high rates are for 40 hrs per week. Any extra hrs are either part of fixed salary jobs or unfinished deliverables for whatever reasons.
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