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'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

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Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

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I agree, the problem is in the heads of the people who blindly trust everything they are told. Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? Since when is that scientific? Doubt is reasonable, there's no problem here. Unquestioned belief in "common sense" an…

Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? If it were a single national airline, or even a subset of airlines, then maybe there would be cause for concern. But, a global conspiracy involving airlines, private airplanes, multiple governments, and tens of t…

The extent of NSA surveillance was known to thousands, if not tens of thousands of people before Edward Snowden clued the general public in.

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those theorists are quite irrational, but what I find most ridiculous about a lot of them is not the theories themselves, but the idea that they have the ability to actually fight back. Sensationalists like Alex Jones assert crazy ideas such as the government tainting our tap water to perform mass mind control and yet at the same time spread this message that they can resist against the upcoming "New World Order." Wi…

This. If the government is really that omnipresent and controlling in our lives, are they really going to let some blogger who knows the Truth run amok and post it everywhere? Yes siree, this government is capable of faking the Moon landing, concealing the existence of aliens / lizard people, and executing 9/11 to invade Iraq, but they are powerless against some random dickhead with a laptop who spotted the holes in…

The counter argument, of course, is that by 'removing' / silencing said conspiracist it would be proof they were right all along.

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

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I'm surprised to see this article in 2016. I thought chemtrails were debunked decades ago.

There are people that still believe the Earth is flat. You will never, ever, change the minds of these believers.

The Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe.

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

#54
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Given the inherent implausibility of a massive global conspiracy that has such obvious effects but no coherent explanation of... anything... it seems to me that it would be more useful to study why and how people come to believe in these things. The problem is in people's heads, not the sky.

I agree, the problem is in the heads of the people who blindly trust everything they are told. Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? Since when is that scientific? Doubt is reasonable, there's no problem here. Unquestioned belief in "common sense" an…

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Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, the problem is in the heads of the people who blindly trust everything they are told. Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? Since when is that scientific? Doubt is reasonable, there's no problem here. Unquestioned belief in "common sense" an…

Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? If it were a single national airline, or even a subset of airlines, then maybe there would be cause for concern. But, a global conspiracy involving airlines, private airplanes, multiple governments, and tens of t…

Manhattan project[0]

It may fail your 'for so long test' - could you define how 'so long ' is?

0 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

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post #6

Given the inherent implausibility of a massive global conspiracy that has such obvious effects but no coherent explanation of... anything... it seems to me that it would be more useful to study why and how people come to believe in these things. The problem is in people's heads, not the sky.

I agree, the problem is in the heads of the people who blindly trust everything they are told. Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? Since when is that scientific? Doubt is reasonable, there's no problem here. Unquestioned belief in "common sense" an…

Perhaps it is outrageous believing in a conspiracy where almost all the airlines in the world are part of it without having a single leak

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

#58
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The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.

I never took the conspiracy seriously but I was decently surprised by the number of contrails visible in the sky on a clear day during my visits to the Northeast of USA. I understand it was probably a due to a combination of climate (my visits all happened to be in Winter) and the sheer density of commercial flights in that airspace, however the observation did make me feel a little empathy for those people who buy i…

Well...powering heavier-than-air flying machines by burning dead dinosaurs is about as unnatural as it gets. Civilization and all that ;)

Edit: someone seems to think that unnatural = wrong? On the Internet - a place that is so un-natural that it doesn't even physically exist? What irony.

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

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post #14

Give this a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1eVTy0bBCg&t=115 Its a NASA scientist Dr. Douglas Rowland at the minimum admitting geo-engineering and that there are different types of "chemtrails" and that they have dumped lithium into the atmosphere.

No, he is not admitting geoengineering or chemtrails being what you think chemtrails are

Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts

#60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those theorists are quite irrational, but what I find most ridiculous about a lot of them is not the theories themselves, but the idea that they have the ability to actually fight back. Sensationalists like Alex Jones assert crazy ideas such as the government tainting our tap water to perform mass mind control and yet at the same time spread this message that they can resist against the upcoming "New World Order." Wi…

This. If the government is really that omnipresent and controlling in our lives, are they really going to let some blogger who knows the Truth run amok and post it everywhere? Yes siree, this government is capable of faking the Moon landing, concealing the existence of aliens / lizard people, and executing 9/11 to invade Iraq, but they are powerless against some random dickhead with a laptop who spotted the holes in…

I have to clarify: them knowing and proliferating the 'truth' is one thing, whereas the idea that they can actually do something about it is what I'm really getting at. They paint a pessimistic picture of the world that's at odds with the idea that somehow they can band together somehow and fix it.
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