Give this a listen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1eVTy0bBCg&t=115 Its a NASA scientist Dr. Douglas Rowland at the minimum admitting geo-engineering and that there are different types of "chemtrails" and that they have dumped lithium into the atmosphere.
'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
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Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#32I'm surprised to see this article in 2016. I thought chemtrails were debunked decades ago.
Complete rubbish of course, it's the blue aliens from Gliese 667C who control the cabal. And HN of course.
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#33Given the inherent implausibility of a massive global conspiracy that has such obvious effects but no coherent explanation of... anything... it seems to me that it would be more useful to study why and how people come to believe in these things. The problem is in people's heads, not the sky.
I agree, the problem is in the heads of the people who blindly trust everything they are told. Why is it so outrageous to assume that chemtrails might be a covert experiment to manipulate climate (or has some other purpose)? I'm not saying that it is, but is it outrageous to doubt official narratives? Since when is that scientific? Doubt is reasonable, there's no problem here. Unquestioned belief in "common sense" an…
If it were a single national airline, or even a subset of airlines, then maybe there would be cause for concern. But, a global conspiracy involving airlines, private airplanes, multiple governments, and tens of thousands of employees? That is patently ridiculous. Has anything on that scale ever been kept secret for long?
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#34The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.
There is such a thing but it is dispersed through radio, TV, and the Internet, not airplaines. It's particularly thick during an election year.
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#35The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.
Much like religion it's also next to impossible to argue against, because you're arguing against belief and not reason. You can show someone a thousand pieces of evidence and they'll say "that's what they want you to believe". But a single piece of 'evidence' in the opposite direction, however spurious, is enough to yield a thousand "I told you so / I was right all along" comments.
With chemtrails, for instance - you can point out the science as much as you like, but as soon a believer reads something like the cloud seeding over Asia [1] or the germ war testing off the UK [2], you might as well give up. Similarly with pretty much any other conspiracy theory.
[1] http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-and-indone... [2] http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalsc...
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#36The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.
Those theorists are quite irrational, but what I find most ridiculous about a lot of them is not the theories themselves, but the idea that they have the ability to actually fight back. Sensationalists like Alex Jones assert crazy ideas such as the government tainting our tap water to perform mass mind control and yet at the same time spread this message that they can resist against the upcoming "New World Order." Wi…
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#37The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#38Given the inherent implausibility of a massive global conspiracy that has such obvious effects but no coherent explanation of... anything... it seems to me that it would be more useful to study why and how people come to believe in these things. The problem is in people's heads, not the sky.
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#39I'm surprised to see this article in 2016. I thought chemtrails were debunked decades ago.
Re: 'Chemtrails' not real, say atmospheric science experts
#40The idea of chemtrails is appealing to so many people because it's a way to express outrage toward the elites or upper echelons in society. The theories are always a bit vaporous (like the chemtrails themselves), but I think it's stemming from an honest, genuine sense of frustration that one is being cheated or manipulated by a system that doesn't represent them. Chemtrails give a head to this boogeyman.
Those theorists are quite irrational, but what I find most ridiculous about a lot of them is not the theories themselves, but the idea that they have the ability to actually fight back. Sensationalists like Alex Jones assert crazy ideas such as the government tainting our tap water to perform mass mind control and yet at the same time spread this message that they can resist against the upcoming "New World Order." Wi…
Yes siree, this government is capable of faking the Moon landing, concealing the existence of aliens / lizard people, and executing 9/11 to invade Iraq, but they are powerless against some random dickhead with a laptop who spotted the holes in the Official Story that this omnipotent cabal just couldn't cover up. Riiight.