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Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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There is something you can do to install that : https://mailinabox.email/

I've been using it for a year. Works great. One of the most thoughtfully designed and complete bits of software I've ever run into. I'm especially delighted with it's self monitoring and the status change email messages it sends me. That it includes webmail and gives me a nicely featured DNS server only makes it a touch more awesome. I run it at Digital Ocean for ten bucks a month. I support family and friends. My em…

DigitalOcean is just as susceptible to surveillance as Google or Microsoft.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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Yes. I do this. It gets rid of the spam folder problem while allowing you to host the incoming email yourself.

I might go down this route. Great advice! What service do you use? Thanks

I'm with Sparkpost for my personal stuff, at work we use Mailgun.

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Being able to use a previously unused IP address is usually a good thing, pity that there are so few of those left. ISPs definitely seem to have an impact as well, but some spamfilters at least used to automatically assign a negative score to anything originating from an IP block used by an ISP for domestic Internet connections.

Well, there's plenty of IPv6 around. My ISP gives out /48 blocks to all customers together with a single, static v4 address. The difference in number of public addresses is incredible.

Good point, although that's a different rant after I found out that my ISP has an IPV6 enabled backbone but won't allegedly roll out IPV6 to their clients until late this year.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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Some ISP don't allow SMTP at all. FWIW, if you are hosting on Amazon for example, you can't run mail server on port 25 from an EC2 until you submit a support ticket.

I find this a bit of an odd claim, since I have a mailserver running on port 25 on EC2 right now, without a support ticket, and have no problems.

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> What is it if anything that happens if my internet cuts > out at my home, You bounce any incoming emails in that period, and (obviously) can't send any. > should I instead use some sort of hosting provider > for my mail server? I suppose that's a trade-off against how reliable you consider your ISP and electricity supply, and the volume or importance of email you'd be likely to receive in such a period.

Bounce? No. The servers trying to send mail to your server will retry for up to, typically, four or five days, before they bounce the mail back to the sender. Mail was written to be resilient against network downtime.

Ha, I wrote that so cautiously, thinking "I'm sure this terminology's not right, I'll probably be called out on it"!

Thanks though, I learned something :)

Regardless of what we call it - the sender would get a copy back with a message not containing the word 'bounce' that says it failed to send, right?

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I've been using it for a year. Works great. One of the most thoughtfully designed and complete bits of software I've ever run into. I'm especially delighted with it's self monitoring and the status change email messages it sends me. That it includes webmail and gives me a nicely featured DNS server only makes it a touch more awesome. I run it at Digital Ocean for ten bucks a month. I support family and friends. My em…

DigitalOcean is just as susceptible to surveillance as Google or Microsoft.

If you aren't sending encrypted email, it makes no difference where your email is hosted.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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It's absolutely possible to run an email server in 2016 and I encourage anyone capable to do so! Email is one of the bastions of the decentralised Internet and we should hang on to it. Every day more and more people are moving to Gmail/Hotmail/Outlook and while I do understand the reasons, it also puts more and more power into the hands of these providers and the little guy (us) gets more screwed (like marked as junk…

How realistic is it to be able to do all this from a Digital Ocean or other VPS, given that those IP blocks may have already been used by spammers or may be used periodically by spammers? I.e. it's trivial for them to set up VPSes on the fly.

I'd feel nervous about doing this at home. For one thing, my ISP is a residential cable internet provider, and not 100% guaranteed uptime as a result. I'd hate to miss mail or worry whether I did.

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That's why you soft bounce. It tells the sender that you can't receive the email _at this time_.

Pretty sure you can't do anything when you're not connected to the internet.

A connection timeout is a soft bounce.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5321#section-4.5.4.1

   The sender MUST delay retrying a particular destination after one
   attempt has failed.  In general, the retry interval SHOULD be at
   least 30 minutes; however, more sophisticated and variable strategies
   will be beneficial when the SMTP client can determine the reason for
   non-delivery.

   Retries continue until the message is transmitted or the sender gives
   up; the give-up time generally needs to be at least 4-5 days.  It MAY
   be appropriate to set a shorter maximum number of retries for non-
   delivery notifications and equivalent error messages than for
   standard messages.  The parameters to the retry algorithm MUST be
   configurable.

Re: Ask HN: Is it possible to run your own mail server for personal use?

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It's absolutely possible to run an email server in 2016 and I encourage anyone capable to do so! Email is one of the bastions of the decentralised Internet and we should hang on to it. Every day more and more people are moving to Gmail/Hotmail/Outlook and while I do understand the reasons, it also puts more and more power into the hands of these providers and the little guy (us) gets more screwed (like marked as junk…

Some regions are totally plagued with ISPs that block port 25 on their residential plans. It's totally despicable that they do this, and often without knowing it (sales reps and techs will wrongly deny that they block port 25).
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