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It disappoints me that that they charge for pre-built binaries... Yes I can go and build it from source but it just doesn't feel right to have an open source project distributed like this. Shame on them for flaunting what I think is the spirit of Open Source.
It disappoints me that that they charge for pre-built binaries... Yes I can go and build it from source but it just doesn't feel right to have an open source project distributed like this. Shame on them for flaunting what I think is the spirit of Open Source.
- Second, in the case of Ardour, just read https://community.ardour.org/node/8288 . These people are doing what they can to keep the project alive.
It disappoints me that that they charge for pre-built binaries... Yes I can go and build it from source but it just doesn't feel right to have an open source project distributed like this. Shame on them for flaunting what I think is the spirit of Open Source.
I think it is a great way to fund development. In any case various Linux distros will have gratis packages available at some point.
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I think it is a great way to fund development. In any case various Linux distros will have gratis packages available at some point.
That's already happening: KXStudio, a Linux distro for audio work, has pre-packaged Ardour binaries.
- http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&s...
Is there anyone on here who uses DAW's seriously, and has tried Ardour? Can it compete with the big boys?
The problem for Ardour on Linux is the plugin ecosystem. Any serious DAW user has invested thousands of dollars in plugins, none of which will run on Linux. For Linux to be a serious platform for audio work, it needs much more than just a DAW; it needs samplers, synths, reverbs, dynamics and EQ processors, pitch correction, restoration and mastering tools, etc etc.
Ardour is a noble effort, but I can't help feeling that it's a little bit futile. The sheer scale of the audio software ecosystem seems insurmountable for free software.
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Agreed, qualifying 75 k$/yr in the US as "not much money" is hyperbole for a developer with 20 years experience of multithreaded multiplatform C++. As to funding from big OSS players, the problem is that Ardour is niche software, far away from the interests of those big OSS players. Regarding your examples, - Mozilla has interest and invests into web/infrastructure tech (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11956…
The GNOME program aims at getting more people involved in OSS projects: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/ Personally, I think it is awesome and appreciate the great contributors I've seen come in through the program.
It's have been quicker to write, 'internships are open to everyone but white, heterosexual men,' but that would have been too honest.
How utterly despicable.
Perhaps Paul Davis could apply, and claim to be Pauline Davis for internship purposes.
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The GNOME program aims at getting more people involved in OSS projects: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/ Personally, I think it is awesome and appreciate the great contributors I've seen come in through the program.
> Currently, internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people. Additionally, they are open to residents and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander. It's have been quicker to write, 'internships are open to everyone but white, heterosexual men,' but…
Agreed.
But I don't think it's despicable. Our field needs diversity, and in a dominated ecosystem you don't get diversity by just letting natural forces do their job, because the ecosystem is already dominated/biased.
So to my eyes we need biased, opposed initiatives like this one, or PyLadies.
Does it remove available funding for Paul? (In other words, are the total available OSS funds the result of a zero-sum game)? I don't think so: some support the goals of Outreachy and contribute to it, some like Mozilla just contribute to what's in their field. These programs are about OSS fundings but I wouldn't categorize them as part of the same set.
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That's already happening: KXStudio, a Linux distro for audio work, has pre-packaged Ardour binaries.
Not just specialized distros like KX, Ardour is at your fingertips in vanilla Debian and Ubuntu - http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&s... - https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ardour
We (ardour.org) do not (and cannot) support distro-built versions of Ardour.
It disappoints me that that they charge for pre-built binaries... Yes I can go and build it from source but it just doesn't feel right to have an open source project distributed like this. Shame on them for flaunting what I think is the spirit of Open Source.
- First there's nothing wrong per se about charging for binaries in a GPL project, other projects did it before them (XChat comes to mind) and others will do. Doing so is absolutely not flaunting anything for a GPL project, if you think so you should read about what Free Software means. - Second, in the case of Ardour, just read https://community.ardour.org/node/8288 . These people are doing what they can to keep the…
Is there anyone on here who uses DAW's seriously, and has tried Ardour? Can it compete with the big boys?
I'd say that it's competitive with older versions of the major DAWs. It's reasonably stable and has a reasonably complete feature set. The problem for Ardour on Linux is the plugin ecosystem. Any serious DAW user has invested thousands of dollars in plugins, none of which will run on Linux. For Linux to be a serious platform for audio work, it needs much more than just a DAW; it needs samplers, synths, reverbs, dynam…
I think you're also not fully informed on the scale of existing plugin development on Linux. Several commercial developers now produce plugins for Linux, and there are some open source ones for many tasks that are actually outstanding. Noise removal/restoration is one particularly weak spot.
Finally, Ardour doesn't run on just Linux. Anyone on OS X or Windows can use the program, along with their full set of VST (Windows) or AU (OS X) plugins on those platforms.