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The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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post #28

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I thought this is the original blockchain?

The original blockchain was deprecated on 3/14. Neither ETH nor ETC are using it. http://ethdocs.org/en/latest/introduction/the-homestead-rele...

That's technically true but not actually so and is very misleading. Quoting you,

> Don't take anyone's word for it; ask for unbiased sources.

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

#42

I was curious what the respective chains hashrate is: Ethereum classic: 650~ GH/s Ethereum: 4400~ GH/s The minority chain is honestly doing better than I expected. I wonder how long it will last? What about price: Classic: $1.87 USD Ethereum: $11.69 USD That's fairly significant volume for both. It will be interesting to see where this ends up.

Surprisingly, the volume of Ethereum Classic trades has been much higher than the volume on the fork side since the fork.

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

#43
post #21

I've pretty much lost all faith in Ethereum and its motives. The way this has played out pretty much demonstrates that a good idea, no matter how beautiful, while still subject to being ruled by people capable of corruption/greed/or whatever you want to call it, can be tainted absolutely.

I think that's what Ethereum Classic addresses.

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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post #19
post #5

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How is the original Ethereum blockchain a monstrosity compared to the forked version that was forked to protect failed investments?

By original do you mean Frontier?

No, he means the one that conforms to the specification?

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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post #41
post #28

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The original blockchain was deprecated on 3/14. Neither ETH nor ETC are using it. http://ethdocs.org/en/latest/introduction/the-homestead-rele...

That's technically true but not actually so and is very misleading. Quoting you, > Don't take anyone's word for it; ask for unbiased sources.

>That's technically true but not actually so

Not sure what you mean by this. In case you need a refresher, this is how hardforking works: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/1952/what-is-a-h...

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

#46
post #18

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ETC is a pump and dump scam.

Hilarious that this comment is downvoted. The coin has been quite literally pumped and dumped over the last week or so, and its value has fallen to around half of its ATH and around 15 percent of the value of the winning fork. However one feels about the principal of the decision to fork and the decision of the market to follow the Ethereum Foundation, downvoting factual descriptions of recent price movement on the E…

The ETC fork has %16 of the mining power of ETH, and the price of ETC is at this moment about %15 the price of ETH. This implies its price is following mining power, roughly. That's not a "scam" that's just a smaller alt.

It's worth noting that before the fork there was no ETC "movement", there was just people who were unhappy with the fork. Everyone expected the fork to go to ETH.

However, when sufficient mining power refused to fork, a movement coalesced from the people who opposed the fork.

ETC is still up %300 from its stable post-fork price. The current mining power is up 2x-4x what it was post fork as well. Most of the rise of its price was preceded by increases in its mining power.

This implies that people are putting money into mining it.

When a fork happens you end up with a lot of people who have duplicated coins, so you would expect the "losing" fork to have some significant price dynamics.

But the growth in hash rate and the sustained price implies this is not a "scam".

That said I don't know what its future is- it needs a roadmap and a reason to exist to become viable long term. But at this point you can't say that won't happen.

I hold neither ETC nor ETH.

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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post #12

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How is splitting into ETC earning anyone money?

ETC is a pump and dump scam.

Sometimes it's hard to tell a manifesto from a pump-and-dump. A good heuristic might be: "does it contain a stock ticker symbol?"

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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I was curious what the respective chains hashrate is: Ethereum classic: 650~ GH/s Ethereum: 4400~ GH/s The minority chain is honestly doing better than I expected. I wonder how long it will last? What about price: Classic: $1.87 USD Ethereum: $11.69 USD That's fairly significant volume for both. It will be interesting to see where this ends up.

I don't remember the hash power on classic, but it is definitely up since the fork.

Re: The Ethereum Classic Declaration of Independence

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post #24

I can't tell if the article is serious, knowingly over the top, or even an act of an epic trolling. In any case, it's an excellent demonstration of how techno-libertarian crypto-currency advocates inhabit an entirely alternative reality.

I read the article. It is pretty clear in its purpose and reasoning and its points are cogent.

Your response is one of characterization, purely. You raise no objections, you provide no argument or reason to believe "they" inhabit an "alternative reality". You do call them names, though "techno-libertarian" is a weird one because how is that different from any other libertarian? I know of no group of people who call themselves "techno-libertarians" so this would seem to imply you are using it as a pejorative or as a code phrase to signal others of a similar ideology to you.

At any rate, your response, like so much commentary these days, contains no addressing of the argument, no specific claims or points, but merely derision and attitude.

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