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Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by abritinthebay » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 4:49 PM UTC

david-given wrote: post #96

DanBC wrote: post #71

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I love Bagpus. There's also Mister Ben (not sure this stands the test of time) and Ivor the Engine. (And I have fond memories of Danger Mouse, but I'm not sure that's any good either).

Well, you can't go wrong with Oliver Postgate, who I now notice made nearly half of the programs in my (completely randomly selected) list... Also I appear to have remembered a fairly small selection of the 'children's television on drugs' genre. See also: Banamaman, Jamie and the Magic Torch, Roobarb and Custard, Captain Pugwash... While talking about children's television: it's not British, and it's slightly later,…

Fraggle Rock actually is British, kind of.

It was co-produced by a British television company (TVS), and had specifically filmed inserts that replaced the Inventor with a Lighthouse owner (the sequences were arguably better too, certainly less rambling and more focused).

But even if you ignore the inserts (others were filmed worldwide) it's still partially British

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by squidfood » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 4:55 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #71

david-given wrote: post #58

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Go look up some old British children's television. It was made in an era when... um... let's just say that it wasn't focus grouped. Chorlton and the Wheelies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6Ng7VMqet0 Noggin the Nog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bKAYH3Sl8s The Trapdoor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eEXyg1lsZc Bod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfFoj-gFP2M Bagpuss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9beAp3TG…

I love Bagpus. There's also Mister Ben (not sure this stands the test of time) and Ivor the Engine. (And I have fond memories of Danger Mouse, but I'm not sure that's any good either).

My children were the right age about 5 years ago, and everything on your list (and by another comment, Fraggle Rock) held up well for them, and also the watching parents. Sure Mister Ben was a little clunky, but in a fairly timeless way. And Postgate and Henson just had the "storytelling" touch.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by spullara » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:12 PM UTC

None of my kids watch traditional television at all, everything they are interested in is on YouTube, both for entertainment and education.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by Tyr42 » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:21 PM UTC

k-mcgrady wrote: post #115

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #42

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At least those fictional characters aren't taught to kids with a threat of eternal pain and damnation if they do something Bad. (Although in NL, Sinterklaas' helpers will abduct you to Spain if you're naughty) (edit: Actually that doesn't sound too bad, I wouldn't mind going to spain)

Isn't one of Santa's big things that he has a list of good and bad children and you will receive coal instead of presents if you are bad? Lots of parents use Santa as a threat especially to misbehaving kids in the weeks leading up to Christmas. I don't think there's anything wrong with that but there is definitely a 'bad' side to Santa as their typically is with religion.

At least it's not Krampus, who'll drag you off in chains.

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Post by mrcoleman » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:22 PM UTC

marcusgarvey wrote: post #120

benologist wrote: post #62

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That sounds like my 4 year old, right down to the finger song she can sing along with in like 5 languages now lol. Those youtube videos of people with toys are nuts, some of them are like a modern form of story telling and really well made. Some shows I like of hers: - Miles from Tomorrowland, a family adventuring in space with bits of science and physics thrown in - Lost in Oz, it's decades later and Dorothy's daugh…

>Those youtube videos of people with toys are nuts What is this referring to, exactly? Videos of (adults?) playing with toys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItXVHSeTd7o

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by repler » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

95% of the population needs to be brainwashed means 95% of the children's shows are going to be garbage.

It's just math. Make sure your kids are in that 5%.

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Post by secabeen » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:34 PM UTC

kaybe wrote: post #75

benologist wrote: post #62

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That sounds like my 4 year old, right down to the finger song she can sing along with in like 5 languages now lol. Those youtube videos of people with toys are nuts, some of them are like a modern form of story telling and really well made. Some shows I like of hers: - Miles from Tomorrowland, a family adventuring in space with bits of science and physics thrown in - Lost in Oz, it's decades later and Dorothy's daugh…

We recently started 'Barbie - Life in the dreamhouse' on netflix for giggles and found it to be an actually decent show. The plot is what happens if you give the barbie dolls and merch to a bunch of nerds and give them free reign. You get Glados running the automated closet and plotting for world fashion domination, only to be stopped by the evil switch being turned off again, a large part of the first episode is mod…

My daughter went through that show for a while, and we found the same enjoyment. It's self-referential enough, and plays their inanity clearly enough that even the youngest kid can tell it's not behavior to emulate.

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Post by nightpool » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

thanatropism wrote: post #65

tclancy wrote: post #14

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I am old enough (40) with a daughter who is almost 3, to be a little horrified by kids' TV. It's not that there isn't a ton of "good" stuff for her, it's that there is only "good" stuff. There isn't anything not geared toward teaching her math, reading or morals. When I was a kid, that was PBS and a handful of other shows and the rest of it was people whacking the crap out of each other to make me bug my parents to b…

> we limit her daily screen time to no more than 24 hours. Here's the thing, though. There's a tradeoff between setting limits and teaching children what's right and wrong; and teaching them how to decide for themselves what's what. This is why kids of a certain age often get cash allowances, for example. Kids are going to grow up one day. They will watch porn, and they need to know what's what -- what's bizarre ente…

Wait, did I read this wrong? Limiting the daily screen time to "no more then 24 hours" reads like a tongue in cheek joke, because there are only 24 hours in a day.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by andrepd » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:39 PM UTC

thanatropism wrote: post #65

tclancy wrote: post #14

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I am old enough (40) with a daughter who is almost 3, to be a little horrified by kids' TV. It's not that there isn't a ton of "good" stuff for her, it's that there is only "good" stuff. There isn't anything not geared toward teaching her math, reading or morals. When I was a kid, that was PBS and a handful of other shows and the rest of it was people whacking the crap out of each other to make me bug my parents to b…

> we limit her daily screen time to no more than 24 hours. Here's the thing, though. There's a tradeoff between setting limits and teaching children what's right and wrong; and teaching them how to decide for themselves what's what. This is why kids of a certain age often get cash allowances, for example. Kids are going to grow up one day. They will watch porn, and they need to know what's what -- what's bizarre ente…

Yes, they need to grow up eventually, but not at age 3. A toddler cannot make good decisions on their own. I'm 100% for the point of view you exposed about letting kids make their own responsible choices instead of hand guiding them, but a 3 year old needs to be told what to do.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Post by tclancy » Fri, Aug 12, 2016, 5:41 PM UTC

kaybe wrote: post #75

benologist wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds like my 4 year old, right down to the finger song she can sing along with in like 5 languages now lol. Those youtube videos of people with toys are nuts, some of them are like a modern form of story telling and really well made. Some shows I like of hers: - Miles from Tomorrowland, a family adventuring in space with bits of science and physics thrown in - Lost in Oz, it's decades later and Dorothy's daugh…

We recently started 'Barbie - Life in the dreamhouse' on netflix for giggles and found it to be an actually decent show. The plot is what happens if you give the barbie dolls and merch to a bunch of nerds and give them free reign. You get Glados running the automated closet and plotting for world fashion domination, only to be stopped by the evil switch being turned off again, a large part of the first episode is mod…

I think you may have solved a mystery for me. For weeks our daughter has been talking about someone named "Bobby SuhMEEsa" and we finally gave up and decided he's Keyser Soze, but I think it may be a corruption of "Barbie's Dream House". I kind of liked the mystery better.

Regardless, I'm using it as my alias from now on.