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E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by luka-birsa »

ThePadawan wrote: post #8

We use similar displays for room occupation displays on our campus (made by https://www.roomz.io/ ). For me, the most interesting thing to learn was that "battery-powered" means that the manufacturer expects a battery to last 2-3 years , as the displays maintain no active WiFi connection, and are only woken up sporadically via RF.

You can check https://joanassistant.com which is a room booking system, based on the same technology. It integrates with Exchange, Office 365 and Google Apps, connects via WiFi and runs for months on single battery charge. Its fully interactive and updates instantly.

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by luka-birsa »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #3

Here's a link to the hardware: https://www.visionect.com/technology#hardware Details of the controller board: https://docs.visionect.com/VisionectPandaDS.html And the thing that was interesting for me the most, the screens they use: https://docs.visionect.com/ElectronicPaperDisplays.html Now why the screens were most interesting for me? Because "e-paper" name has in the past been used not just for e-ink-like displays…

You'll need to wait for E Ink to launch 24" displays :).

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by luka-birsa »

Zekio wrote: post #29

Anyone seen cheap E-paper solutions, one could use at home for various things?

Sure, you can use HTML&JS to create an interactive E-Paper device with the technology that Visionect offers - check the development kits: https://www.visionect.com/development_kits

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by posterboy »

sigio wrote: post #27

Various stores in the Netherlands are currently using EPaper like screens as price-tags. Examples are Mediamarkt/Saturn and Makro/Metro. Nice way to automatically update pricing and have up-to-date pricetags.

I'd say this is more for posterity than anything, seeing how those thrive on aggressive advertisement.

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Post by paulcole »

cmod wrote: post #34

A good case where design really does matter. These things stick out like sore thumbs. Good museum labels blend. They certainly don't look like old thermostats. I can't imagine most museum curators would dare to put these on their walls. And anyway — why constrain all information to a single display. If the goal is to get more information about a painting to a view, there are more solutions both more efficient and kin…

Not every visitor can use a QR code. I can't think of a single situation where QR code is the best answer.

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Post by GrumpyYoungMan »

wudag wrote: post #11

Yet an other example of "progress is not obviously better" : like these commercial centers' electronic maps, one guy will be able to handle the device at a given time, and all 5 people around will have to wait him to finish before being able to just know the title. And I'm skeptical about the reduced ecological impact of electricity and electronic devices as compared to paper.

> one guy will be able to handle the device at a given time

Handle what device? As the photos at the link plainly show, these are wall mounted e-paper signs.

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by XaspR8d »

dagw wrote: post #28
douche wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I desperately want a 10-12" e-ink ebook reader. Trying to read textbooks or programming tomes on a standard size Kindle is too painful. Not a whole lot of options out there though.

Sony has one which seems really nice (based on the 2 minutes I played with it once): https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-DPTS1/ Unfortunately it is a bit limited (only supports PDF's out of the box) in what it can do and much too expensive.

I would've killed for this in grad school. At the time (well still, with the exclusion of this device), there weren't any eReaders with good PDF support, especially for technical documents with nontrivial typesetting.

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

david-given wrote: post #16
karyon wrote: post #10

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In case the last question was serious (i honestly don't know): You wouldn't want that except for daily work (except maybe for reading longer texts), at least not with current e-ink technology. Even with proper colors, adding several 100ms of latency to everything you do at the computer slows you down while typing, makes scrolling ugly etc. Not to think of videos or games...

You can get refresh on a Kindle screen down to under 100ms if you want plain black and white. You only get the ludicrous refresh times if you want greyscale --- I believe they do some kind of dithering over time to achieve that. Back in the old days I had a Hercules monitor with slow phosphor. I've tried to find some figures on the response rate, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a similar speed to the eink scree…

Paging is honestly easier for me than smooth scrolling when reading text.

When smooth scrolling, you lose a lot of time following the animation and waiting for motion to stop.

For some use cases, this would be ideal. For others, not so much.

Can you speedily grayscale into black-and-white? That is, type a letter, putting black/gray into a previously white space (or vice versa, if using a dark color scheme), clearing a single-pixel-wide cursor and installing a new one to the right of the added letter. I don't need the letter to be fully black instantly, I just need to see that I have typed something.

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by coredog64 »

douche wrote: post #30
ekianjo wrote: post #25

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How about that ? https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/d... Even better maybe, the Onyx Boox Max at 13.3 inches: http://www.banggood.com/ONYX-BOOX-Max-13_3-Inch-1G16G-Flexib...

The Kindle DX would be nice, but I'm a little wary of buying used consumer electronics. I looked at the Boox Max and it looks awesome, but it's a little rich for my blood right now. The regular Kindle costs $80, 10" Fire tablets are selling for $180, so nearly $800 seems like a lot.

As a Kindle DX owner, I would strongly recommend against purchasing one. They do show up on Amazon Warehouse as refurbs, but even still, you're not going to get any software upgrades, display of PDFs is awful, and it wasn't particularly fast even when new.
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