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What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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> But until then, they seem utterly unharmed by a childhood of hearing about the queen’s bottom and watching grandma light some bodily gas on fire. Is that really as surprising as is implied? To me, none of what the article describes seems like such a bad thing. Sure it's a little weird, but it seems right up there with the humor children enjoy. And not everything has to have a message or a moral at the end of it.

that's the point the author's making.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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This link to "Ramasjang" might (or might not) work from outside Denmark: https://www.dr.dk/tv/se/onkel-reje-og-boernenes-brevkasse-s1... Most bakers sells "Kaj Cakes", we don't mind eating the cute puppets: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/c72.0.495....

Works fine from Germany. And now I'm watching bizarre Danish children's TV. There goes my day.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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I'm a Dane, and grew up with Danish children's television, including the shows mentioned in the article. I just recently re-watched one of my favorite shows "Nanna", which you can now stream from the archives of DR. Even as an adult, I still enjoy watching it for its humor and creativity, and for the fact that it doesn't speak down to its audience. I don't think that can be said about most other children's shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1kBNCRB6hw

Nanna: "What're you doing?"

Mother: "We're having sex, what're you doing?"

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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post #8

Kaj and Andreea is fantastic! I'm Dutch but my wife is Danish. She does her utmost best confronting our kids with Danish TV (we live in Holland), so I understand a bit of what the author is on about. I was initially surprised as well. Truth is, it _is_ entertaining! But most importantly, once you get past the absolutely amateuristic way things are shot (hey, the kids don't care, why should you?), there's a lot of dep…

Exactly. It's often very educative.

I am raising Danish kids abroad myself so I have watched a fair share of the Ramasjang shows from here.

To be fair, Danish children's shows are often inspired by American shows, to the point where many of the characters are - visually - clones of popular American versions: Check out this bird from what is maybe the most popular Danish children's show ever (5 sec in): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGOf_cV5ebc Looks like Big Bird. Or this popular show, Ramajetterne, which is visually completely like Sesame Street: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-jk_VuoJsg

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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At the risk of making a tu quoque argument - if you want to see unhealthy children television, look no further than Cartoon Network.

I don't know what they are showing on CN in general right now, but I'm an adult who watches the regular show and Steven Universe, and would very much watch the latter together with my children if I had any.

My two kids (6, 9) fell in love with the regular show years ago. It's the only show I can watch with them. The writing is strange and psychadelic with hidden messages I'm sure only I pick up on and the artists (is this show computer animated?) are great.

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post #18
post #5

"Supreme Being is not only imaginary" I was immensely proud when my son at 4 years old decided to stand up in his pre-school class and point this out to everyone.

Why? Should he also be telling them that Santa Clause and the tooth fairy are imaginary? Why can't kids be kids and believe in whatever makes them happy? They'll have plenty of time later to be old and cynical.

Because false beliefs that are later dashed make kids cynical? Being prepared to distinguish reality from fanatasy is an essential skill needed to rise above the whims of crowds. However, if I had a kid in a similar situation as the OP, I might have tried to teach them about the dangers of confronting other kids' parents when those kids stop believing in Santa at four instead of whatever age they'd hoped.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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I'm a Dane, and grew up with Danish children's television, including the shows mentioned in the article. I just recently re-watched one of my favorite shows "Nanna", which you can now stream from the archives of DR. Even as an adult, I still enjoy watching it for its humor and creativity, and for the fact that it doesn't speak down to its audience. I don't think that can be said about most other children's shows. htt…

> I'm a Dane

with possibly the most Danish name I have ever seen, heh.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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You missed Bamse ("Teddy"): A self-absorbed egocentric narcissist, taking advantage of his naive, little-minded friend Kylling ("chicken"), episode after episode with zero negative impact. After +20 years he's now joined by Bruno, also a teddy bear, sharing similar personal flaws except with much refined insults bordering on psychopathic abuse, bullying kids instead of chickens, believing firmly that the world exists solely to please him in every which way.

However, mostly you may have missed the subtle, educational point (yes, there is one) underpinning these characters: Critical thinking. Is it right to behave like this, even if there is no negative consequence (as is often the case in real life)? Do you emphasize with someone taking advantage of their friends? In Denmark, we have this crazy idea that kids are interested in distinguishing right from wrong, even when the answer isn't spoon-fed by a morally correct television character - and maybe exactly because it isn't.

The kids don't like Ramasjang because it's a training ground for inspiring film makers. The like it because naughty is fun. And, if done right, it just may induce some critical thinking. It'll take more than a few days of watching, but just like the kids, you'll see the point :-)

Best regards from a grown-up, bottle-fed on Bamse, somewhat certain of right from wrong.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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post #18
post #5

"Supreme Being is not only imaginary" I was immensely proud when my son at 4 years old decided to stand up in his pre-school class and point this out to everyone.

Why? Should he also be telling them that Santa Clause and the tooth fairy are imaginary? Why can't kids be kids and believe in whatever makes them happy? They'll have plenty of time later to be old and cynical.

Kids don't choose to believe in any of that stuff. It's a game for adults that involves extensive lying and often elaborate staging. You're explicitly equivocating between cynical and realistic, here. Everything true is not bad, and the adult world is not all terrible.

Re: What Danes consider healthy children’s television

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post #5

"Supreme Being is not only imaginary" I was immensely proud when my son at 4 years old decided to stand up in his pre-school class and point this out to everyone.

i've never met a more evangelical (from the greek) crowd than atheists.

You really ought to get to know some Mormons ;) (spoken as a former believer). One reason some groups, like atheists or evangelicals, are so vocal is because they believe that the damage done to society by others not sharing their beliefs will be irreparable. This is why beliefs and decisions need to be rooted in reproducible evidence, rather than the reverse.
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