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Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Serious question: what are people building with these boards? The recurring projects I've seen are controlling lights, doors/locks and monitoring water in plants. I don't find these particularly compelling, am I missing something? How is this the next big thing?

I used an arduino to receive weights of coins from a scale and then trigger flippers to remove coins into various buckets depending on their classifications.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#152
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used one to control a pair of candy machines for a Watson demo - there was a laptop with a microphone that did sentiment analysis on your speech, and then it told the Arduinos to give you either sweet or sour candy. The next version is probably going to have a Raspberry Pi replace both the laptop and the Arduinos, but they were a good starting point to get the project up and running.

RaspPis are startlingly cheap these days, and surprisingly capable. For less than a tank of gas, I just built a retro ROM console, and the new version 3 boards are beefy enough to run video through Kodi without missing a beat or play any old console games I've tried up through the PS1/N64 era.

They're not really equivalent. The Pi is a full-blown computer, for better and for worse. The Pi Zero draws 70mA at idle, while the Pi 3B draws more like 300mA even with most of the peripherals turned off. With a bit of tweaking, an Arduino will run for months on a coin cell.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#153
post #116

The whole thing is a sham really when you consider the heritage from the Wiring/Processing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiring_(development_platform) Arduino is a commercial version of somebody else's academic work.

Yes, but in the end they did promote a cheap, easy to use platform something that the processing guys didn't quite achieve.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#154
I have a Teensy board, which is much cheaper and works pretty much exactly the same as Arduino and Genuino. The Teensy LC is great for small projects and is about 15 bucks IIRC. Never understood why you would stick to a more expensive brand just because of the name.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#155

Serious question: what are people building with these boards? The recurring projects I've seen are controlling lights, doors/locks and monitoring water in plants. I don't find these particularly compelling, am I missing something? How is this the next big thing?

I've had similar questions from some of my hard core embedded colleagues, here's my answer:

Just think of something you might do with a traditional embedded systems approach, then google "arduino for ________" or "arduino shield for _______" and see what you'll find. Its can be pretty amazing. Its much broader that the surface stuff of LEDs and basic sensor / actuator tasks.

As someone who's done production embedded systems work, what I build from arduino (and the fairly large arduino ecosystem) is not for high volume product, its for proof of concept, small run pilots and show and tell (and fun).

Off topic a little: One thing I've done to convince colleagues of the a plausible story of arduino POC to Production is collect a bunch of arduino gear (simply through web search and amazon) and build a paper-product with all the cobbled together parts. Then pose the question "if these cobbled together things cost _______ in single quantities, is there a plausible story for them to be 10x (or 100x) less on a cost optimized board with a proper contract mfg"?

If the answer is yes, then you cobble together your arduino thing and go show and tell with customers.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#156
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"other MCs aside from the Arduino that are more interesting today" Can you give a few links? Thanks in advance.

The Particle Photon is pretty awesome: https://store.particle.io/ Program in JavaScript, from a web IDE even. Wireless uploads to the board. $19.

I have one of those and one of the original sparkcore wifi devices (and an electron too #bragging)

They are a really interesting IoT play becoming and MVNO and all!

Also -- they had one of the funniest kickstarter video's i've seen: https://youtu.be/-sP5hn6VDgE

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#157
post #116

The whole thing is a sham really when you consider the heritage from the Wiring/Processing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiring_(development_platform) Arduino is a commercial version of somebody else's academic work.

>Arduino is a commercial version of somebody else's academic work.

How is this a sham? The wikipedia page you link even says Wiring is LGPL (and thus allows commercial/proprietary use).

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they're much friendlier to get started for the novice, most of the widespread examples seem extremely trivial to someone with experience. Now- I'm DEFINITELY not an expert, probably barely mediocre with the EE fundamentals, but I did take a lot of EE and some robotics at Uni to get my degree in Computer Engineering. I am nothing more than a hobbyist but some of my cooler projects have been: - Autonomous 4WD r…

Similar to the nerd question - could you describe your approach to the freezer monitor? I have a cabin I don't live nearby to, and I basically can't keep anything in the freezer. It seems to go out often enough to unfreeze then refreeze the ice cube water. I was thinking a flat thermistor. Then I started thinking - what if it's not the power, but the freezer itself? Now I'm getting into a battery to log when power is…

We used to put a marble and water in an empty camera film roll canister (transparant). Freeze in the freezer and flip over. If you come back and the Marble is frozen on the bottom of the canister: don't eat anything! #lowtech

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#159

The local Microcenter sells Arduino Uno R3 clones under their Inland store brand for $10, currently and frequently on sale for $6. Ideally, I'd like to support Arduino LLC, but given how absurd this whole feud has been, I don't feel especially guilty when I buy a clone. I have bought a few Arduino brand 101 boards from Microcenter as well so I'm not a total sell out!

The Mega R3s are often down at $10 as well.

Inland brand hardware has always been pretty well-built too. I've never had issues in over a decade of purchases of their store brand stuff.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

#160
post #77

TLDR: Reseller is pissed that "Genuino" has to be sold as "Arduino" in the US and that they have separate SKUs. Also Genuino seems to have poor B2B/reseller support. Is this post really that petty or am I missing something?

Engineers don't like needless restrictions. Can't sell "Arduino" in the EU because of underhanded legal reasons? Ok, fine, that's life. Can't sell "Genuino" in the US? I thought this painful brand switch was to fix stupid legal problems?! But Genuino did this to itself?!! screw it

I get the impression that they're probably trying to avoid further diluting the Arduino brand in the US with the expectation that they'll eventually prevail in the trademark dispute.
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