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Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by mr337 »

VMG wrote: post #11
herbst wrote: post #2

Cool. Now i can buy the cheap offbrand clones from Aliexpress without thinking i should have supported the actual creators.

Any recommendations?

Any of them, I've been using everything from teensy,nano, and rebranded Uno. So far they have all worked like a charm and at a steep price reduction. Example, 5 nanos for $15 from Amazon [1].

[1] - https://www.amazon.com/XCSOURCE-ATmega328P-Controller-Arduin...

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by snerbles »

azdle wrote: post #9
lightbyte wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a microcontroller (Arudino) with a computer (pi). They aren't the same thing.

Sure they are. I mean, sure, you and I know the difference between an 8-bit micro with some friendly libraries and a 64-bit ARM SOC running a full OS. But for a lot of stuff they accomplish the exact same thing. So why not compare them by what most people do with them rather than their raw technical specs.

This is like saying a farm tractor and a pickup truck are the same thing because they both have internal combustion engines and wheels.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by rootbear »

The local Microcenter sells Arduino Uno R3 clones under their Inland store brand for $10, currently and frequently on sale for $6. Ideally, I'd like to support Arduino LLC, but given how absurd this whole feud has been, I don't feel especially guilty when I buy a clone. I have bought a few Arduino brand 101 boards from Microcenter as well so I'm not a total sell out!

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by guiomie »

azdle wrote: post #9
lightbyte wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a microcontroller (Arudino) with a computer (pi). They aren't the same thing.

Sure they are. I mean, sure, you and I know the difference between an 8-bit micro with some friendly libraries and a 64-bit ARM SOC running a full OS. But for a lot of stuff they accomplish the exact same thing. So why not compare them by what most people do with them rather than their raw technical specs.

Sure they are not.

Different form factors, and most importantly different energy need. You'll get much better result running an arudino on AA batteries than a pi.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by andrewstuart2 »

herbst wrote: post #18
VMG wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any recommendations?

I bought like 2 of them so far and they both were exactly as expected. The only thing to note is that you should try to find those with CPUs (are those CPUs?) similar to the ones from the original designs. Some (the super cheap ones, < $1) often are identical by design but come with some crappy CPU

I think they're technically microcontrollers, which are actually a microprocessor and then some (RAM, ROM, ADC, etc) all on the same chip.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by CalRobert »

azdle wrote: post #9
lightbyte wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're comparing a microcontroller (Arudino) with a computer (pi). They aren't the same thing.

Sure they are. I mean, sure, you and I know the difference between an 8-bit micro with some friendly libraries and a 64-bit ARM SOC running a full OS. But for a lot of stuff they accomplish the exact same thing. So why not compare them by what most people do with them rather than their raw technical specs.

I needed a small box to run owncloud. I would definitely use something like a Pi (or odroid).

I needed to control my brewery's heating element based on input from a timer and a thermometer. That definitely called for an arduino.

They're different, and while it's true I COULD have used a Pi for the latter, it would use way more power and be complete overkill.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by dekhn »

Vexs wrote: post #4
antoniuschan99 wrote: post #3

So basically the Arduino the Software Company (IDE), and Arduino the hardware supplier broke ties? I use the ESP8266 which I do believe is an Arduino (Hardware) Killer. However, the Arduino IDE has amazing support for the ESP8266 among other hardware components. This isn't a bad thing, at least for consumers, since I feel like Arduino (the hardware) is a few cycles behind (eg. Particle, CHIP, bbc micro, pi zero, node…

I dunno about the ESP8266 being a Arduino killer- it doesn't handle analog very well last I checked. But as for details over what happened, check this [1]hackaday article. [1] http://hackaday.com/2015/02/25/arduino-v-arduino/

It has one analog pin, it seems to be very limited, I agree. But you can get an ADC breakout and talk to it via SPI.

Re: Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

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Post by nathancahill »

Serious question: what are people building with these boards? The recurring projects I've seen are controlling lights, doors/locks and monitoring water in plants. I don't find these particularly compelling, am I missing something? How is this the next big thing?
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