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Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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How about allowing us to pay to not see ads? I still enjoy using Facebook but I hate seeing ads. I'd pay a couple bucks a month to avoid them.

I personally don't think it would go over well but I'd like to see a site with as much pull as Facebook try it. I've seen articles claiming facebook is making $10 per user per quarter [1]. That seems high to me but if true I don't see anyone paying $10 per month for memes and political rants.

[1] http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-average-revenue-per-...

Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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This is a hostile action against their users. When someone installs software on their computer specifically to block ads from being downloaded, presented, or seen.. and then some corporation goes to extreme lengths to bypass that software, that is a hostile action. I wouldn't be surprised if it's illegal. But regardless of legality, I think it's a sign of how much contempt these companies have toward their users, and…

Against their users? How do their users think they pay to run the site in the first place? Would it be better on their users to require everyone to pay for use? People need to stop acting like Google and Facebook owes them something. All the free stuff is only available if someone pays. My thoughts...there are a lot of bad ad companies out there and unknowing websites place their ads up. But, to place an ad blocker o…

I agree with you and I also buy the argument that users can choose what their browser decides to render. The best action is to stop using a service. Continuing to use a service with an adblocker shows that you get some type of value out of it but not enough that you're willing to put up with ads.

Disclaimer: I finally installed an adblocker about two months ago so maybe that makes me a hypocrite. Honestly I don't see much of a difference before and after. Ads are not nearly as bad as most users here would make you think. The only real dangerous part is those networks being attacked and injecting malware.

Facebook's ads are some of the least intrusive and well targeted. That second part makes people paranoid though.

Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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I'm more curious to see how this plays out with technology than I am over the economic and privacy arguments. Facebook obviously has the resources to find new ways around these ad blockers. Can these small ad blocker developers keep up?

Facebook still renders fine with adblock and ublock origin running.

Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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This is a hostile action against their users. When someone installs software on their computer specifically to block ads from being downloaded, presented, or seen.. and then some corporation goes to extreme lengths to bypass that software, that is a hostile action. I wouldn't be surprised if it's illegal. But regardless of legality, I think it's a sign of how much contempt these companies have toward their users, and…

Against their users? How do their users think they pay to run the site in the first place? Would it be better on their users to require everyone to pay for use? People need to stop acting like Google and Facebook owes them something. All the free stuff is only available if someone pays. My thoughts...there are a lot of bad ad companies out there and unknowing websites place their ads up. But, to place an ad blocker o…

"How is facebook supposed to make money" Is not my or your concern, unless you're a facebook employee. If their business model is not profitable then it should not survive. That is the nature of free market capitalism.

It's not stealing to block ads on facebook. They are offering a free service. Another way to see this is that offering a supposedly free service and then forcing people to watch advertisements is dishonest.

This is really about big corporations being unable to adapt to new technology. Every time that happens what you see is the corporations choose to use anti-consumer tactics which are hostile in nature. Evidence, perhaps, that the corporations have always looked on their customers with contempt. When they get into a bit of hot water because of their failures, they take it out on everyone else.

I agree with folks saying "just don't use facebook". There is literally zero reason for anyone to use facebook, it is a terrible service, and a terrible company. Big Corporate Social Media is never profitable, it is going to die, and it should die. Personally, I wish it would just get it over with so we could all move on to superior technologies.

Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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To me it seems like a pretty straightforward application of the categorical imperative ("act as though your principles will become universal law"): if everyone blocked ads, we'd have no free content. I want free content. Hence, I don't block ads. You don't have to agree with me on this, but I don't think I'm coming from nutty principles.

> if everyone blocked ads, we'd have no free content. That's right! If people did not pay for using software, there would be no... oh wait... I am writing from Linux, using Firefox... and have a github tab open... But if people did not pay for encyclopedias... oh wait... In fact, if companies could not monetize on ads, less clicbaiting, useless and worthless crap would be created. Sure there would be much less conten…

There was a period of time, after the bubble and before ad-blockers, when the world wide web was a parasitic minefield of flashing imagines and clickbait and malware.

Then someone invented AdBlock and the web was suddenly fun to use again.

People who've grown up in an ad-block era have no idea how bad it used to be. They didn't have to watch this amazing new "internet" being destroyed by greedy crooks who themselves barely understood the technology.

Re: Facebook Blocks Ad Blockers, but It Strives to Make Ads More Relevant

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if everyone blocked ads, we'd have no free content. That's right! If people did not pay for using software, there would be no... oh wait... I am writing from Linux, using Firefox... and have a github tab open... But if people did not pay for encyclopedias... oh wait... In fact, if companies could not monetize on ads, less clicbaiting, useless and worthless crap would be created. Sure there would be much less conten…

There was a period of time, after the bubble and before ad-blockers, when the world wide web was a parasitic minefield of flashing imagines and clickbait and malware. Then someone invented AdBlock and the web was suddenly fun to use again. People who've grown up in an ad-block era have no idea how bad it used to be. They didn't have to watch this amazing new "internet" being destroyed by greedy crooks who themselves…

ad-block era??? This is relatively new. There is no era yet ;) It's like saying "The Pokemon Go Era"
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