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Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by lugg »

ittekimasu wrote: post #26
benbreen wrote: post #8

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You'd be surprised. A good friend of mine is an Afghan who grew up sleeping on a dirt floor alongside his 5 siblings. When he was 15, his parents sent him off to their family village in order to fight the Taliban. I first met him at our PhD program orientation in the US. He speaks four languages and and is one of the most well educated people I've ever met. Granted, he's an exceptional person but by no means of a uni…

Wouldn't a Thinkpad be a better idea ? You can get used ones for fairly cheap.

Recommending an x220 with a new battery / ssd / ram. Probably still cheaper than an ipad.

Although the ipad / or I'd suggest android tablet may be the better way to go. Charging from battery packs is easier than a laptop.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by benbreen »

lugg wrote: post #31
ittekimasu wrote: post #26

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Wouldn't a Thinkpad be a better idea ? You can get used ones for fairly cheap.

Recommending an x220 with a new battery / ssd / ram. Probably still cheaper than an ipad. Although the ipad / or I'd suggest android tablet may be the better way to go. Charging from battery packs is easier than a laptop.

The thinking behind giving an iPad mini is purely just because we have one lying unused in a drawer. Here's an excerpt from what he actually had to say (rough draft translation by my wife from Dari so the wording is a little off, I.e "mechanical physics" should be mechanical engineering):

https://twitter.com/resobscura/status/761285673672409090

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by ben_jones »

sotojuan wrote: post #28
winter_blue wrote: post #10

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> their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies Isn't it disappointing that with all the automation and advanced technology we have today, people on average have less free time ? I changed jobs recently, and at my new company, my team consistently works from 9 am to around 7pm. I feel pressured to stay as I don't want to be the only one walking out the door at 5:15pm (and since that'd be frowned upon). M…

Serious question: Why did you take the job? Assuming it wasn't your only choice or you had to get a job ASAP and took the first one (if so, ignore the rest), why? I've made the same mistake before: Working at a place where everyone works late or at home after work, or even on weekends. Not for me—I make sure to ask during interviews about working hours and expectations.

Not winter_blue but I imagine it sneaks up on people. I think when you enter an office (and sign the offer sheet) you're in a honey moon stage and tend to see only the benefits you are now receiving with a certain position. Then over time you see the worst parts of people creep out and as managers etc. get a better understanding of your thresholds they will push you accordingly.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by kaikai »

KajMagnus wrote: post #29
kaikai wrote: post #27

I worked on a project called Free Skool that's essentially the same thing. Even in wealthy, "free" countries, there are plenty of people that don't have access to educational resources, and can benefit from sharing knowledge with their peers. We had classes on everything from maths and philosophy to sewing and figure drawing. Education shouldn't be something that only happens when you have a ton of money and years of…

Do you have a website? Would you like to link to it (or send me via email?)

I worked on Free Skool Santa Cruz (http://santacruz.freeskool.org/) but we stopped a few years back. It's entirely decentralized, and there's a bunch of projects around the world. Here's a wiki page that has more links and resources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchistic_free_school

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by witty_username »

winter_blue wrote: post #10
ben_jones wrote: post #7

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Anthropologically speaking their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies. I wouldn't be surprised if their is in fact a fair chunk of time that could be diverted to education if the resources were both available and accessible. From a study of modern Asian and Pacific "free time" [1]: "People in Cambodia (note the caveat of age – the sample is of those 5 years and older) and Pakistan have the largest amo…

> their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies Isn't it disappointing that with all the automation and advanced technology we have today, people on average have less free time ? I changed jobs recently, and at my new company, my team consistently works from 9 am to around 7pm. I feel pressured to stay as I don't want to be the only one walking out the door at 5:15pm (and since that'd be frowned upon). M…

Well, people in such agrarian societies don't have a good standard of living, at least from most of HN's perspective. I think things like computers would be pretty expensive for them.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by ekianjo »

> to a post World War II effort by Communist Russia, who once again took control of Poland

Inaccurate - it did not wait for post-WW2. Russia invaded already the second half Poland as soon as 1939 (2 weeks after Germany) and on top of that, without declaring War.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by goldenkey »

hueving wrote: post #17
tezzer wrote: post #11

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An expectation of 10 hour days? Ridiculous. You might be the only one walking out at 5:15 the first few days, but you might get followers, and improve the culture at your workplace in the process. If you're meeting your tasks and deliverables, your hours as a butt in a seat shouldn't matter. Alternatively, start working from home 2 days a week. Approach your boss with the idea you're more productive without the commu…

>If you're meeting your tasks and deliverables, your hours as a butt in a seat shouldn't matter. Alas, there are many companies where that's directly against the culture of 'shared torture'. If you're not killing yourself like everyone else, "you don't believe in the dream and you're only a clock puncher".

Just have a spine and leave at the normal time. What happens, happens. Its insidiously nerdy and meek to be in an office full of people who are all afraid of the "usual time to leave"

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by aleksei »

ben_jones wrote: post #7
lumberjack wrote: post #4

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Unlikely. Those people don't have the luxury of time needed to put any serious efforts towards their education.

Anthropologically speaking their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies. I wouldn't be surprised if their is in fact a fair chunk of time that could be diverted to education if the resources were both available and accessible. From a study of modern Asian and Pacific "free time" [1]: "People in Cambodia (note the caveat of age – the sample is of those 5 years and older) and Pakistan have the largest amo…

Would this study hold for ancient societies thought? There is very, very little we know of pre-historic societies.

Early farmers did not have pesticides, or advanced machinery. They were working with crops only recently domesticated, and with little knowledge of best practises. There was no social order, so bands of thieves may have been more common.

This would suggest that much time would have been spent weeding and protecting crops from pests and thieves, although there can be only speculation on this part. However, I would be cautious of accepting that ancient societies had it as good as the people in the study. Once societies formed it probably got worse, eg. the life of a farmer in ancient Egypt.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Post by ajuc »

Mz wrote: post #12

Education for the sake of education, for people with a desire to learn. This pretty much has to be better than education for the purpose of credentialing.

They were mostly nobles (Poland had lots of these - almost 5% of population) or rich middle class women before feminism (so - no need to work).
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