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Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Anthropologically speaking their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies. I wouldn't be surprised if their is in fact a fair chunk of time that could be diverted to education if the resources were both available and accessible. From a study of modern Asian and Pacific "free time" [1]: "People in Cambodia (note the caveat of age – the sample is of those 5 years and older) and Pakistan have the largest amo…

> their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies Isn't it disappointing that with all the automation and advanced technology we have today, people on average have less free time ? I changed jobs recently, and at my new company, my team consistently works from 9 am to around 7pm. I feel pressured to stay as I don't want to be the only one walking out the door at 5:15pm (and since that'd be frowned upon). M…

An expectation of 10 hour days? Ridiculous. You might be the only one walking out at 5:15 the first few days, but you might get followers, and improve the culture at your workplace in the process. If you're meeting your tasks and deliverables, your hours as a butt in a seat shouldn't matter.

Alternatively, start working from home 2 days a week. Approach your boss with the idea you're more productive without the commute time sucking up 1/4 of your workday

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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I cannot imagine doing this today, although there are still places that need a secret university. However, I wonder if we have the solution, at much less risk. I wonder if, 30 years from now when a whole new generation has grown up, we will discuss poor countries (or, say, people under the Taliban, or in North Korea) learning from the Khan Academy, Coursera and the like in the same way. "What was it like, mom?" "Well…

Unlikely. Those people don't have the luxury of time needed to put any serious efforts towards their education.

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Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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I cannot imagine doing this today, although there are still places that need a secret university. However, I wonder if we have the solution, at much less risk. I wonder if, 30 years from now when a whole new generation has grown up, we will discuss poor countries (or, say, people under the Taliban, or in North Korea) learning from the Khan Academy, Coursera and the like in the same way. "What was it like, mom?" "Well…

i doubt north Koreans have access to khan academy.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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Unlikely. Those people don't have the luxury of time needed to put any serious efforts towards their education.

You'd be surprised. A good friend of mine is an Afghan who grew up sleeping on a dirt floor alongside his 5 siblings. When he was 15, his parents sent him off to their family village in order to fight the Taliban. I first met him at our PhD program orientation in the US. He speaks four languages and and is one of the most well educated people I've ever met. Granted, he's an exceptional person but by no means of a uni…

That's an awesome story. How was Javad planning to receive / read the PDF? Or did he want a paper copy?

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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You'd be surprised. A good friend of mine is an Afghan who grew up sleeping on a dirt floor alongside his 5 siblings. When he was 15, his parents sent him off to their family village in order to fight the Taliban. I first met him at our PhD program orientation in the US. He speaks four languages and and is one of the most well educated people I've ever met. Granted, he's an exceptional person but by no means of a uni…

That's an awesome story. How was Javad planning to receive / read the PDF? Or did he want a paper copy?

His cell phone. He buys data 5 euro at a time from a shop in the town or goes to cafes to download English and engineering textbooks. That's what my wife's thesis project is about - specifically figuring out the best ways to share useful information with refugees who have cell phones but not much else, especially women who might not have a chance to go out in public much, or have a formal education. It's not my field at all but I find her work to be fascinating.

If you're interested, This American Life just did two whole episodes from a Greek refugee camp. In the second episode they interview a guy who patched into a power line under a tree to charge 6 cell phones at once! The group that both TAL and my wife were talking to is really doing good work, they're called the Greek Forum of Refugees.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/592/a...

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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> their was a lot of free time in ancient agrarian societies Isn't it disappointing that with all the automation and advanced technology we have today, people on average have less free time ? I changed jobs recently, and at my new company, my team consistently works from 9 am to around 7pm. I feel pressured to stay as I don't want to be the only one walking out the door at 5:15pm (and since that'd be frowned upon). M…

An expectation of 10 hour days? Ridiculous. You might be the only one walking out at 5:15 the first few days, but you might get followers, and improve the culture at your workplace in the process. If you're meeting your tasks and deliverables, your hours as a butt in a seat shouldn't matter. Alternatively, start working from home 2 days a week. Approach your boss with the idea you're more productive without the commu…

>If you're meeting your tasks and deliverables, your hours as a butt in a seat shouldn't matter.

Alas, there are many companies where that's directly against the culture of 'shared torture'. If you're not killing yourself like everyone else, "you don't believe in the dream and you're only a clock puncher".

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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post #8

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Unlikely. Those people don't have the luxury of time needed to put any serious efforts towards their education.

You'd be surprised. A good friend of mine is an Afghan who grew up sleeping on a dirt floor alongside his 5 siblings. When he was 15, his parents sent him off to their family village in order to fight the Taliban. I first met him at our PhD program orientation in the US. He speaks four languages and and is one of the most well educated people I've ever met. Granted, he's an exceptional person but by no means of a uni…

This is not a terribly substantive comment, but a Kindle Fire might make a little more sense than an iPad. I'm thinking it's less likely to be stolen, more likely to have extra available charging cables.

I wouldn't have guessed this, but after looking it up it seems the battery life of the iPad mini is advertised at the same length as the Kindle Fire.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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I cannot imagine doing this today, although there are still places that need a secret university. However, I wonder if we have the solution, at much less risk. I wonder if, 30 years from now when a whole new generation has grown up, we will discuss poor countries (or, say, people under the Taliban, or in North Korea) learning from the Khan Academy, Coursera and the like in the same way. "What was it like, mom?" "Well…

These "clandestine courses" certainly exist in rich nations, and are secretly held during lunch and in private homes. For example, to avoid bosses knowing. Skilled human tutors, free from school/university bureaucracy, can get into your head and figure out effective ways to inspire learning. Leads to faster and surer learning, for those lucky enough to have it.

It also helps that if you're seeking it out, you're going to be a lot more motivated than if it's compulsory education.

Re: Marie Curie Got Her Start at a Secret University for Women

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I cannot imagine doing this today, although there are still places that need a secret university. However, I wonder if we have the solution, at much less risk. I wonder if, 30 years from now when a whole new generation has grown up, we will discuss poor countries (or, say, people under the Taliban, or in North Korea) learning from the Khan Academy, Coursera and the like in the same way. "What was it like, mom?" "Well…

i doubt north Koreans have access to khan academy.

If Western films make it through, it's not hard to imagine Korean educational DVDs getting in.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/22/north-korea...

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