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Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by iqisracist »

matthewwiese wrote: post #16

I'm glad to hear Soylent has broadened their product category with this addition. It seems (to me at least) to be a perfect solution for a morning routine; when we usually have a cup of coffee with breakfast, why not just roll that into Soylent and "save some time" (negligible imo but still a consideration) not to mention it will hopefully improve the taste tenfold. Ever since I've heard about Soylent I've wanted the…

Not negligible at all. I have to wake up 30 minutes earlier to have a bowl of breakfast before going to work.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by wetmore »

tener wrote: post #30

I saw the photo of two guys standing in the lab. Somehow I thought it is from Breaking Bad or some other show (I'm not watching it so wasn't sure...). Then I read the description: > Soylent scientists at work in the food labs refining Coffiest's flavor. Well, not even close.

It is from Breaking Bad, the caption is a joke.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by tyrust »

tener wrote: post #30

I saw the photo of two guys standing in the lab. Somehow I thought it is from Breaking Bad or some other show (I'm not watching it so wasn't sure...). Then I read the description: > Soylent scientists at work in the food labs refining Coffiest's flavor. Well, not even close.

The screenshot is from Breaking Bad. In the scene two scientists overengineer a perfect cup of coffee. The screenshot's inclusion in the article is a (poor) attempt at a joke.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by kbd »

MicroBerto wrote: post #25
danielvinson wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand what that study has anything to do with this. Their conclusion was that fruit and vegetable consumption reduces risk of death and does not mention anything about the why the fruits and vegetables reduce risk OR that said benefits are not reproducible through other nutritional systems.

Because we don't know why. Just like we didn't understand omega fatty ratios a couple decades ago. So this has everything to do with it. There's more to diet than numbers, yet if you're on a pure Soylent diet, you're clearly not getting some relatively-unknown things that are almost conclusively beneficial to your body. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. Eat your fruits and vegetables or, statistically speakin…

> yet if you're on a pure Soylent diet... Soylent's marketing puts... people at serious long-term health risk.

Even Rosa Labs doesn't recommend a pure Soylent diet. I liked Soylentconor's comment on reddit the other day, pointing out that the right way to look at Soylent is that it's "just food"[1]

I'm obviously not arguing Soylent is perfect, but it's almost certainly better than what most people eat most of the time, and humanity got here subsisting on, on average, much worse.

> Eat your fruits and vegetables or, statistically speaking, your cardiovascular system will eventually suffer.

You seem awfully certain given that you can't say what "relatively unknown [but] conclusively beneficial" things Soylent is missing.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/soylent/comments/4wowtp/why_is_that...

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by ben_jones »

People take sides on Soylent but I'm so glad a company like this exists to just attack the notion of what a meal is. It has such an impact on so many parts of our society including many of the glaring issues like poverty and nutrition.

Personally (and I've tried it) I didn't like their initial strategy of being a 100% meal replacement and feel strongly like it makes a great supplement. I think their new products are more aligned with this and will likely renew my subscription today.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by egypturnash »

"...here's what makes this campaign great in my estimation - each sample of Coffiest contains three milligrams of a simple alkaloid. Nothing harmful. But definitely habit-forming. After ten weeks the customer is hooked for life. It would cost him at least five thousand dollars for a cure, so it's simpler for him to go right on drinking Coffiest - three cups with every meal and a pot beside his bed at night, just as it says on the jar."

- Fred Pohl and C.M.Kornbluth, "The Space Merchants", 1952.

I am glad to see that Soylent is continuing to name their products after Sci-Fi Future Foodstuffs Of Dubious Safety.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by brians »

vinchuco wrote: post #11

Sausages are a ground mix of meats. Is there an equivalent for a mix of vegetables, fruits, grains, meat, etc? It would make more sense as a complete cheap meal than a powder, except for being perishable. It brings to mind the 'diet problem' http://www.neos-guide.org/content/diet-problem for which, if optimizing for price only, often suggests that you eat mainly potatoes.

field roast grain meat sausages, actually. I, an omnivore, use them all the time. They're seitan with vegetables.

And there is the venerable Dillburito.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by bambax »

etaty wrote: post #26

In Europe, you can try : https://www.joylent.eu/ https://www.joylent.eu/products/wake-up-joylent And they also sale bars now! There are other competitor like Queal or Huel

I did try Joylent. I managed to drink one "meal" but couldn't go through the second one. It's the most disgusting thing I have ever encountered.

I eat a lot of things many people would consider unsavory, including snails, oysters, cheese, etc., things way past their expiration date, and very bad (cheap) Chinese food. But this, no.

I had bought 40 bags of the stuff that sit unused in my cupboard.

Maybe Soylent is way different, I don't know, I didn't try it. But a small pill would be fantastic.

Re: Soylent Coffee: Nootropics, fat, carbs, protein

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Post by nradov »

vinchuco wrote: post #11

Sausages are a ground mix of meats. Is there an equivalent for a mix of vegetables, fruits, grains, meat, etc? It would make more sense as a complete cheap meal than a powder, except for being perishable. It brings to mind the 'diet problem' http://www.neos-guide.org/content/diet-problem for which, if optimizing for price only, often suggests that you eat mainly potatoes.

Scott Adams developed something like that (without meat) as the Dilberito. It failed in the market.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilberito

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