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Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by yladiz »

mpd wrote: post #5
pduan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

Because as a developer, it's often easier to develop for Linux than other major platforms. You often get Linux compatability for "free". It's worth asking for for this reason.

That's not exactly true. With some newer tools, it's possible to export to an OpenGL Linux executable, but in other tools, especially older ones, it's still so specialized for DirectX that's it's not always possible especially with AAA games, and companies don't have much incentive to make Linux versions because the market share is significantly lower than Windows. The only reason that it's more easily possible with game platforms like Sony and Nintendo's hardware offerings (MS uses a special flavor DirectX for Xbox) is that the two aforementioned companies plus a lot of other game dev companies pour a lot of money into developer resources that Linux distros doesn't have.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

#12

Post by rtpg »

pduan wrote: post #4
shmerl wrote: post #2

I tired to reach developers with question whether they plan Linux release or not, but got no response. So not really looking forward to it. Everspace on the other hand looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvpLe-2ijk

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

Mac used to be the same story, but now I would bet that at least 10% of indie game sales are on Mac.

If you're using tools like Unity, then shipping to Linux is not nearly the headache it used to be.

I play a lot of games, but thanks to this shift I no longer have to run Windows (can't play overwatch but I can live without it for now). I, for one, am glad I don't have to double my purchases.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

#13

Post by danso »

If you haven't been paying much attention to the drama, No Man's Sky had been struggling to contain fears that it wouldn't live up to the hype. Then last week someone managed to score an erroneously sold copy for $2000 [1] and livestreamed his completion of the game. His impressions seemed to throw cold water on NMS's promises, but this patch makes so many additions that it sounds like a totally different game. Pretty amazing for a first-day patch.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4v8pnp/guy_who_got_n...

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

#14

Post by wmf »

danso wrote: post #13

If you haven't been paying much attention to the drama, No Man's Sky had been struggling to contain fears that it wouldn't live up to the hype. Then last week someone managed to score an erroneously sold copy for $2000 [1] and livestreamed his completion of the game. His impressions seemed to throw cold water on NMS's promises, but this patch makes so many additions that it sounds like a totally different game. Prett…

It does sound kind of weird that the three paths (whatever that means) were added after the game went gold.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by vanattab »

pduan wrote: post #4
shmerl wrote: post #2

I tired to reach developers with question whether they plan Linux release or not, but got no response. So not really looking forward to it. Everspace on the other hand looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvpLe-2ijk

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

I hear what your saying and agree. But in GP's defense the developer did talk about a linux release but then went quite.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by flashman »

wmf wrote: post #14
danso wrote: post #13

If you haven't been paying much attention to the drama, No Man's Sky had been struggling to contain fears that it wouldn't live up to the hype. Then last week someone managed to score an erroneously sold copy for $2000 [1] and livestreamed his completion of the game. His impressions seemed to throw cold water on NMS's promises, but this patch makes so many additions that it sounds like a totally different game. Prett…

It does sound kind of weird that the three paths (whatever that means) were added after the game went gold.

I've read lots of comments from people bewildered that Hello Games is continuing to add features and work on bugs after the game has gone gold. Gold is the 1.0 release: they got the game to a state where there were no showstoppers, and now they're continuing to add value to the game, as well as address issues that only become obvious when large numbers of naive users (and their myriad hardware specifications) encounter a product.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by rhubarbquid »

rtpg wrote: post #12
pduan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

Mac used to be the same story, but now I would bet that at least 10% of indie game sales are on Mac. If you're using tools like Unity, then shipping to Linux is not nearly the headache it used to be. I play a lot of games, but thanks to this shift I no longer have to run Windows (can't play overwatch but I can live without it for now). I, for one, am glad I don't have to double my purchases.

> Mac used to be the same story, but now I would bet that at least 10% of indie game sales are on Mac.

One of the big things that changed was that Macs got a lot more popular and became a bigger market.

I think the main reason we don't see more games for Linux is that it's just not a big enough market (yet?)

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by CyberShadow »

pduan wrote: post #4
shmerl wrote: post #2

I tired to reach developers with question whether they plan Linux release or not, but got no response. So not really looking forward to it. Everspace on the other hand looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvpLe-2ijk

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

> I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform.

Because it is important to challenge monopolies least they abuse their position of power. With DirectX, XNA etc., Microsoft pretty much holds the monopoly as the PC gaming OS. Microsoft has made bold moves against individual freedom and privacy in Windows 10, and I'm sure more will follow.

And what better platform to compete against Windows' monopoly on PC gaming than the most popular free OS? I think that in the long run, continuing to create and display demand for PC games on Linux will only help gaming and even computing in general.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by JesseMeyer »

mpd wrote: post #5
pduan wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

Because as a developer, it's often easier to develop for Linux than other major platforms. You often get Linux compatability for "free". It's worth asking for for this reason.

For anything seriously graphical, you're wrong.

Re: No Man's Sky: Update 1.03

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Post by shmerl »

pduan wrote: post #4
shmerl wrote: post #2

I tired to reach developers with question whether they plan Linux release or not, but got no response. So not really looking forward to it. Everspace on the other hand looks quite promising: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvpLe-2ijk

I never understood why people on Linux always fight to have games on the platform. From the dev perspective, Linux is probably a sub 5% market share so it's never worth the effort compared to releasing new features/content. Why fight this losing trend when you could easily dual boot or even have a dedicated gaming rig?

I have a gaming rig. And it runs Linux. Hopefully this makes things more clear for you. And I don't see any losing trend here. Amount of Linux games continues growing, same as Linux gaming market itself. So trend is clearly winning. But some developers need more pushing.
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