Reasons to NOT open up the code: 1> Loss of competitive advantage 2> Open source is not necessarily any safer (heartbleed bug ... ) 3> If software for the pacemaker is allowed to be updated like that on a computer, someone will update it with buggy software that can cause adverse side effects. Who owns the liability in that case?
“I Want to Know What Code Is Running Inside My Body”
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#12Reasons to NOT open up the code: 1> Loss of competitive advantage 2> Open source is not necessarily any safer (heartbleed bug ... ) 3> If software for the pacemaker is allowed to be updated like that on a computer, someone will update it with buggy software that can cause adverse side effects. Who owns the liability in that case?
3> has nothing to do with the code being OS, wherether or not a device is locked down is independent of that.
Security by obscurity obviously doesn't stop a determined attacker, but it does raise the barrier to entry for script kiddies.
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#13Reasons to NOT open up the code: 1> Loss of competitive advantage 2> Open source is not necessarily any safer (heartbleed bug ... ) 3> If software for the pacemaker is allowed to be updated like that on a computer, someone will update it with buggy software that can cause adverse side effects. Who owns the liability in that case?
Put another way: If you had to explain Marie Moe's death to one of her relatives, which of your three points would make the relative understand your position?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Loss of competitive advantage There's a competitive advantage in keeping pacemakers' source code proprietary? Open source is not necessarily any safer (heartbleed bug ... ) It's a hell lot more amendable to inspection than proprietary software.
> There's a competitive advantage in keeping pacemakers' source code proprietary? There definitely is. If your company takes ~2 years to develop a pacemaker's software, it's not to your advantage to let your competitors catch up. I'm not saying it's a good thing that it's closed source, but there is definitely incentive to keep your research to yourself.
Why should the patient who has the pacemaker implanted care? This seems like a clear situation in which the patient's interests trump everybody else's. Pacemaker manufacturers should be competing in how well their devices meet patient needs. Closed source doesn't meet a key patient need.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There's a competitive advantage in keeping pacemakers' source code proprietary? There definitely is. If your company takes ~2 years to develop a pacemaker's software, it's not to your advantage to let your competitors catch up. I'm not saying it's a good thing that it's closed source, but there is definitely incentive to keep your research to yourself.
> If your company takes ~2 years to develop a pacemaker's software, it's not to your advantage to let your competitors catch up. Why should the patient who has the pacemaker implanted care? This seems like a clear situation in which the patient's interests trump everybody else's. Pacemaker manufacturers should be competing in how well their devices meet patient needs. Closed source doesn't meet a key patient need.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If your company takes ~2 years to develop a pacemaker's software, it's not to your advantage to let your competitors catch up. Why should the patient who has the pacemaker implanted care? This seems like a clear situation in which the patient's interests trump everybody else's. Pacemaker manufacturers should be competing in how well their devices meet patient needs. Closed source doesn't meet a key patient need.
As heartless as this sounds: the patient isn't the only person in the equation. There are investors that fund the medical research, a company has employees to pay, the hospital wants the best pacemaker available, etc.
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#17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDTQLa3NjE
It's mentioned in the article.
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#18Reasons to NOT open up the code: 1> Loss of competitive advantage 2> Open source is not necessarily any safer (heartbleed bug ... ) 3> If software for the pacemaker is allowed to be updated like that on a computer, someone will update it with buggy software that can cause adverse side effects. Who owns the liability in that case?
Even if we assume that these arguments are sound (which they aren't), they do not appear to provide a proper justification for letting a human being die . Put another way: If you had to explain Marie Moe's death to one of her relatives, which of your three points would make the relative understand your position?
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#20Not a rhetorical question.