Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail • Hacker News Board

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by sridharvembu » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:10 PM UTC

malyk wrote: post #281

brightball wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Holy crap... So I read your comment and strolled on over to Zoho, who I'd never heard of before. They have a lot of products...just wow. That's a lot of stuff. It's just such a jumble. I find myself wanting to know more about what they have to offer but yet completely overwhelmed by everything that's there. Can anybody speak to the quality of these products? How well do they interact? Is Creator any good? It looks li…

Just a heads up. I hate badmouthing companies, but... I wanted to use them instead of Google but my standard .com domain kept error int out in there interface and multiple support emails and posts in their support forum went unanswered so I bailed back to Google. I wanted to like them, but their signup and support experience was terrible. Their other products seemed to work well, but they've lost me as a customer.

(Zoho CEO here) I am sorry to hear this. If you can email me your issue I will have it taken care of. svembu at Zoho dot com.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by maccard » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:22 PM UTC

lisper wrote: post #250

maccard wrote: post #208

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I'm interested in keeping my data private, and willing to pay for it, I'm just not interested in maintaining a server, and dealing with 1) keeping it up, and 2) keeping it secure. I'd just rather pay someone a small monthly/annual fee to do it for me, along with keeping my data private.

How much would you be willing to pay?

Honestly, I don't know. It depends on how usable the service is. I'm currently paying $36/yr for a vpn, $20/year for mail, and $12/year for password sync. Ideally I'd like to spend about the same, and be able to move my file syncing away from Dropbox/google drive, and my calendar off google. I'd be willing to pay a little more to support a cause though.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by maccard » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:24 PM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #245

maccard wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in keeping my data private, and willing to pay for it, I'm just not interested in maintaining a server, and dealing with 1) keeping it up, and 2) keeping it secure. I'd just rather pay someone a small monthly/annual fee to do it for me, along with keeping my data private.

That's true, but many people have a home server anyway, so this is a very nice addition. As an aside, after this article I wanted to give Fastmail a shot, but I had already signed up a while ago and then never logged back in. I asked support if they could give me another trial so I could actually try it out, but they said I had to pay. Not great customer support there, especially since I had sent or received zero ema…

Absolutely. I'm not bothered with allowing an externally facing system inside my home wifi network, and I'm not interested in ensuring I keep my systems patched and up to date. Id also not like to leave a box running 24/7 when I can leech a teeny amount of power from a data entire only when it's needed!

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by zouhair » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:25 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

I wonder how long before Google buys Fastmail.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by maccard » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:26 PM UTC

keybits wrote: post #277

maccard wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm interested in keeping my data private, and willing to pay for it, I'm just not interested in maintaining a server, and dealing with 1) keeping it up, and 2) keeping it secure. I'd just rather pay someone a small monthly/annual fee to do it for me, along with keeping my data private.

Try Radicale contact and calendars on Sandstorm[0]. 1 click install[1]. Can be self hosted or as part of their hosted service[2] (free while in beta). [0] https://sandstorm.io/ [1] https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/8kr4rvyrggvzfvc160htzdt4u5rfvj... [2] https://oasis.sandstorm.io/

I wasn't aware that sandstone had a hosted option, I was under the impression you had to provide your own hardware/vps. I'll check it out, but I'm still not that interested in maintaining and keeping it up to date!

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by collinmanderson » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:39 PM UTC

brightball wrote: post #276

olalonde wrote: post #263

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Or if you can't pay the 5$/month, you can get a free Zoho mail account with custom domain and connect Gmail to it.

Holy crap... So I read your comment and strolled on over to Zoho, who I'd never heard of before. They have a lot of products...just wow. That's a lot of stuff. It's just such a jumble. I find myself wanting to know more about what they have to offer but yet completely overwhelmed by everything that's there. Can anybody speak to the quality of these products? How well do they interact? Is Creator any good? It looks li…

I first heard of them in 2007, so they've been around a while. I haven't used their products much though.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by davidandgoliath » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:39 PM UTC

curiousgal wrote: post #290

olalonde wrote: post #263

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Or if you can't pay the 5$/month, you can get a free Zoho mail account with custom domain and connect Gmail to it.

Too bad they only support SSL ports 110 and 995 when setting up POP3, my registrar uses 465.

Seems rather odd — 465 is for outgoing mail (SMTP). 110/995 are for incoming pop3.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by confounded » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:48 PM UTC

Very happy recent convert to KolabNow!

  Pros:

  - 100% green energy
  - 100% Free Software 
  - Servers run on fully open POWER8 architecture!
  - Server for your contacts (CalDAV), calendar (CalDav), and 
  notes (IMAP)
  - Swiss privacy laws
  - They run what seem like very fancy business-class LUG
  events in Europe. Of no utility to me what-so-ever, but I'm 
  glad to be indirectly funding this sort of thing.

  Cons:

  - No 2FA :(
  - Not the cheapest (but I'm happy to pay a little extra for 
  the above)
  - Slow webmail (moved back to native clients)

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by voltagex_ » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 11:54 PM UTC

josteink wrote: post #80

voltagex_ wrote: post #52

Unfortunately I can migrate my email to FastMail, but years worth of paid Android apps will be lost if I migrate away from my Google Apps for Work account.

No need to. You can have a different email account than Google account on your Android devices. Android allows you to have almost unlimited accounts fort unlimited things, and you can yourself control what gets synched for each individual account. Just keep using the old Google Account for play services and the like and your new email account for fastmail email. Android is nice that way.

Unfortunately that requires me to keep paying $6AUD/month for Google Apps. That may be the way to go, ultimately.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by viraptor » Tue, Aug 09, 2016, 12:01 AM UTC

brightball wrote: post #276

olalonde wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or if you can't pay the 5$/month, you can get a free Zoho mail account with custom domain and connect Gmail to it.

Holy crap... So I read your comment and strolled on over to Zoho, who I'd never heard of before. They have a lot of products...just wow. That's a lot of stuff. It's just such a jumble. I find myself wanting to know more about what they have to offer but yet completely overwhelmed by everything that's there. Can anybody speak to the quality of these products? How well do they interact? Is Creator any good? It looks li…

Just treat it like google, or AWS - you're not going to use all their services and you don't need to. The things I'm using I'm really happy with.

Email just works. No thrills there. Using a custom domain.

Invoicing is pretty simple and I like that tracking payments and payment processors are integrated.

Docs are pretty good. They allow both storing files in arbitrary structure and tagging them at the same time. There's a phone app which I used once or twice and it's ok.

In general, I like it. It supports 2FA. If they let me pay for the service I would (5 users minimum, there's no cheap single-user subscription). It's kind of like an office suite - you're not going to praise how great it is, there are some obscure issues out there, but it works year after year for me and I'm happy to use it. While it may have happened, I can't remember any outage of their service.