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Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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An open question independent of the author: What do people use Mathematica for that can't be done in R, SAS, Matlab, SPSS or Python libraries.

Is it a great innovation that other tools have caught up with, or is it still getting a lot of use at the bleeding edge?

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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An open question independent of the author: What do people use Mathematica for that can't be done in R, SAS, Matlab, SPSS or Python libraries. Is it a great innovation that other tools have caught up with, or is it still getting a lot of use at the bleeding edge?

It's one of the few systems I've seen that is simultaneously a good programming language, good at symbolic computation, and also good at numerical computing.

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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If I didn't know better I'd have assumed from all the first person pronouns that Wolfram is the lead developer and coded 90% of the new version's features himself.

From what I've read, Wolfram is a very micromanaging [1], so he probably did have his input in all of the features.

He mostly states it himself:

Hundreds of us have been energetically working on building this for the past two years—and in fact I’ve personally put several thousand hours into it.

[1] Read some of the comments from Glassdoor (https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Employee-Review-Wolfram-Re...)

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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An open question independent of the author: What do people use Mathematica for that can't be done in R, SAS, Matlab, SPSS or Python libraries. Is it a great innovation that other tools have caught up with, or is it still getting a lot of use at the bleeding edge?

>An open question independent of the author: What do people use Mathematica for that can't be done in R, SAS, Matlab, SPSS or Python libraries.

All those don't offer a seamless environment, that's hassle free, easy to setup, with commercial support, a great GUI, great documentation and works across so many science domains and with different approaches.

So, the question is quite (but not that severely) like "what people do with excavators that you can't do with spades".

The answer is, nothing much, except tons.

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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Great news. I'm particularly excited to see that they're implementing more thorough builtins for working with ANNs and other ML abstractions.

If you want to know more about the neural network stuff specifically there is a gallery of marketing examples at http://www.wolfram.com/language/11/neural-networks/?product=... and quite a few examples at http://reference.wolfram.com/language/ref/NetTrain.html (look under Applications near the bottom of the page).

The current selection of layers is biased a bit towards vision, but my colleague and I are working on recurrent networks as we speak, which will unlock networks that operate on text, audio, and other data of a sequential or temporal character. Hopefully that will land in a few months with 11.1.

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

After a year of Donald Trump, I find Stephen Wolfram's competent and scientific self-fondness quite refreshing.

Talk about damning with faint praise.

At least Wolfram's Pokémon statistics are accurate.

http://www.wolfram.com/language/11/knowledgebase-expansion/f...

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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I do wonder if they have ever thought of building a Mathematica Machine like the old Lisp and Smalltalk machines?

I doubt it. I think the big take away lesson from the language specific machines was that it's not worth it. LOTS of money is spent on the R&D that goes into making x86, ARM, etc. faster and better each iteration, and without the economies of scale that come with a huge install base, it's basically just a money pit. Even if a dedicated Mathematica CPU was faster now, the x86 version will be faster in a few years anyway.

It might make sense one day when when processor improvements level off even more than they already have.

On the other hand, it might be a neat idea to OEM a high end x86 system and sell it as a purpose built "mathematica machine," with Mathematica pre-installed, the best supported GPU, optimal RAM and CPU, etc.

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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I do wonder if they have ever thought of building a Mathematica Machine like the old Lisp and Smalltalk machines?

And what good would that be? Besides being single purpose and not running tons of other software?

It just seems like they are including everything into their product that I could actually see them selling a dedicated device. I could almost see them building an actual notebook (well, tablet) that runs only Mathematica.

Re: Version 11 of Mathematica

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An open question independent of the author: What do people use Mathematica for that can't be done in R, SAS, Matlab, SPSS or Python libraries. Is it a great innovation that other tools have caught up with, or is it still getting a lot of use at the bleeding edge?

First-rank symbolic calculation is absolutely critical.
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