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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by tdkl »

ynak wrote: post #50

FastMail is great and their web interface is really light and fast, but the pricing[0] doesn't fit me. I want to use my custom domain as an email address, so I have to choose the `Enhanced` plan ($40 USD per 1 year). That also provides 100 domains and 500 domain aliases, it is a bit overwhelming for personal use. I hope they would make a new middle-class plan between `Full` and `Enhanced` with Cal/Card DAV features.…

Was in the same boat, when looking to leave Gmail.

Now I pay 18€ per year for custom domain support, 10 aliases, 10GB mailbox, 50MB attachment, IMAP, ActiveSync, CardDAV, CalDAV. Webmail is handled by sOGO, roundcube, squirrelmail, support is fast and tickets get answered in couple hours max. Service is in EU.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by CaptSpify »

josephg wrote: post #66
unicornporn wrote: post #18

Lately I've been looking at some paid email options as I'm not happy with the offering over at Yahoo, Google, Microsoft or AOL. I wonder why they're all quite expensive. Fastmail is $40 a year, and that's for 15 GB. I would need at least 20 GB (which means I'm looking at $120 a year). 15 GB is free over at Google. Does that mean my data is really worth $40 a year to them. I do realize this is oversimplifying things..…

I have about 20gb of messages in gmail that I'm considering moving too. But really, I can't think of a single time I've needed to look at a message that was more than a couple of years old. Running your own email server, getting around spam blockers and blocking incoming spam all sounds like a pain. My plan is to move to fastmail but and only migrate across the last year or so of messages. Google's data liberation fr…

> Running your own email server, getting around spam blockers and blocking incoming spam all sounds like a pain.

It does look intimidating, but it's not. I've been doing it for years with little effort. Once you get dns set up, and set up spam-assassin (which is super easy), It's been pretty much just sit and watch it work, IME

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by ultramancool »

Avshalom wrote: post #36
ultramancool wrote: post #27

Why would you use FastMail when hosting your own mail server has a much higher privacy level? It seems no better than gmail in this respect.

because if you run your own mail server apparently you have a 50/50 shot of having literally none of your mail ever delivered.

I bought a house and run all my bills from my own mail server, so that certainly hasn't been my experience. You just need to configure it correctly and make sure your IP doesn't have a bad rep.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by fiatjaf »

keysergalt wrote: post #38
ultramancool wrote: post #27

Why would you use FastMail when hosting your own mail server has a much higher privacy level? It seems no better than gmail in this respect.

Security, Spam Filtering, Better web interface, native apps, two-factor auth, DR, etc. These are just some of the reasons.

Spam filtering?

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by basemi »

0xmohit wrote: post #62

Has anybody used HushMail [0] or ProtonMail [1]? How does it stand against both free services like GMail/Yahoo or paid ones like FastMail? [0] https://www.hushmail.com/ [1] https://protonmail.com/

Hush user here for 2y already. I've the desktop paid account and I'm very happy with it (POP+IMAP)

They seem to be more privacy oriented than popular ones. Web UI is nice but maybe not "so nice"? (I do not use it so freq.)

Also see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_webmail_provider...

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by ultramancool »

daphreak wrote: post #51
ultramancool wrote: post #27

Why would you use FastMail when hosting your own mail server has a much higher privacy level? It seems no better than gmail in this respect.

The post specifically mentions the maintenance overhead associated with running a self hosted server.

Maintenance is minimal, it's pretty much set and forget, add a cron job to update spamassassin, I get maybe 1 piece of spam in my inbox a week.

Configuration (at least using dovecot and postfix) is easy too once you get started.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by JohnTHaller »

rfrey wrote: post #65

My business uses Fastmail, and I'm mostly happy with it. The one thing I notice every day though, is the spam detection. I start each day by marking 10-15 messages as spam. That's been the case for three years, and I don't seem to be making headway on training their spam filter. It's a small thing, takes me all of 10 seconds, but I do notice it, every morning.

It's a similar thing on Rackspace's email. Their spam filter never learns anything. Marking something as "Not Spam" just adds a whitelisting rule for that sender for that particular email account. You can bypass all of Rackspace's email filters simply by UTF8 encoding the from address and subject.

Spam filtering at most big providers is still abysmal.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by otec »

childifchaos wrote: post #5

Who cares? Why go through all that effort just to move your data out of the US, if they really wanted to read that they would, but they most likely would not care. Silly over reaction. Your going to use a service that is not as good, waste a bunch of on importing/exporting for reasons that would have made no difference to your life. So your actively choosing to downgrade your life to spite someone else. Smart move.

Excellent sum up!

What's the point of Fastmail if the servers are in the US??

The author starts his "poem" with Snowden and privacy concerns, but he ends up with exactly the same solution as Gmail.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by JohnTHaller »

ultramancool wrote: post #89
bluGill wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I have interests other than running my own email server. I am capable of running my own email server. I'm also capable of taking my own garbage to the dump every week. I'm capable of removing my own appendix if that is required (under self administered local anesthesia). I hire those things done because I have better things to do with my time. I got tired of keeping up with the latest anti-spam best practices…

> FastMail is a cheap and easy option to email. So is spinning up a docker container with this all already configured... I just don't see the argument I guess, it's just too easy to do yourself. Instead you're getting ripped off and losing privacy. There's no reason to believe fastmail is any more private than GMail, staff can just as easily read and deliver your mail to whomever they please. A medical degree takes y…

And ensuring it stays running and updated and secure and backed up. Docker isn't magic. A server instance and the associated apps still need to be maintained. And you're either trusting the creator of that Docker image or digging into every security setting anyway.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by CaptSpify »

Avshalom wrote: post #36
ultramancool wrote: post #27

Why would you use FastMail when hosting your own mail server has a much higher privacy level? It seems no better than gmail in this respect.

because if you run your own mail server apparently you have a 50/50 shot of having literally none of your mail ever delivered.

Not really true. I've been running my own email server for years, and it's actually really easy. After the initial setup, I don't think I've ever had and email end up non-delivered.
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