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Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by readhn »

cpbotha wrote: post #13
readhn wrote: post #8

If you are concerned about privacy and gov tracking and getting their hands on your email then whats the point of migrating from one "unsecure" email provider (gmail) to another one (fastmail)? With some of the fastmail servers in US jurisdiction your email is just as safe as with gmail.

In this case it was less about gov tracking, and more about the depth of the machine learning profile GOOG builds of its users. That being said, decentralising a bit to providers that don't specialise in user profiling but more in email handling, is a step in the right direction.

gotcha! noone can guarantee fastmail wont be doing the same thing.

We get what we pay for. Free email is not free. The price is the security that we give up. Gmail and Fastmail are equivalent to me. Both own your privacy that you consciously give up for free...

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by EGreg »

im_dario wrote: post #12

"So far, my conclusion is that this is a service that is technically more than capable of replacing GMail, even for power users. Furthermore, FastMail’s primary (and in fact only) business model is to charge you money for making sure that you can keep on emailing like a boss. Together, this makes for an offer that I could not refuse". Totally agreed. I'm a Fastmail's happy user, glad to pay for such a great service.

About the last part: isn't the Google Apps model the same?

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by mapleoin »

readhn wrote: post #21
cpbotha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case it was less about gov tracking, and more about the depth of the machine learning profile GOOG builds of its users. That being said, decentralising a bit to providers that don't specialise in user profiling but more in email handling, is a step in the right direction.

gotcha! noone can guarantee fastmail wont be doing the same thing. We get what we pay for. Free email is not free. The price is the security that we give up. Gmail and Fastmail are equivalent to me. Both own your privacy that you consciously give up for free...

fastmail is not free

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by ElijahLynn »

readhn wrote: post #8

If you are concerned about privacy and gov tracking and getting their hands on your email then whats the point of migrating from one "unsecure" email provider (gmail) to another one (fastmail)? With some of the fastmail servers in US jurisdiction your email is just as safe as with gmail.

That was exactly my initial thought and then I read " after receiving an email from Google asking me to indicate how exactly I would like them to use my data to customise adverts around the web, and after thinking for a bit about what kind of machine learning tricks I would be able to pull on you with 12 years of your email, I decided that I really had to make alternative plans for my little email empire."

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by gkya »

readhn wrote: post #21
cpbotha wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case it was less about gov tracking, and more about the depth of the machine learning profile GOOG builds of its users. That being said, decentralising a bit to providers that don't specialise in user profiling but more in email handling, is a step in the right direction.

gotcha! noone can guarantee fastmail wont be doing the same thing. We get what we pay for. Free email is not free. The price is the security that we give up. Gmail and Fastmail are equivalent to me. Both own your privacy that you consciously give up for free...

Fastmail is paid service.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by joering2 »

> [...] I moved all of my data out of the US and of course [...]

I don't think you can move your data out of Google right? They will keep it even if it looks like deleted to you.

Google (Alphabet now right?) has changed their TOS so many times can someone actually educate me on how long they keep my deleted emails and then if they truly ever delete those, or there is some 160TB compressed tape archived in their basements so that if they truly want to, they can open it and read my emails from today in year 2056 ??

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