Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by cpbotha » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:09 PM UTC

Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail
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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by AdamN » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:32 PM UTC

"If you use any Apple iOS devices to read your mail, you’ll be pleased to know that FastMail, with help from the big A, fully supports iOS push." This is huge! I thought it was just Apple being idiots. I didn't realize that third-party non-Exchange servers could push to iOS!!!

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by bartkappenburg » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:35 PM UTC

"I do have FastMail’s Android app on my telephone. The app is a Cordova / PhoneGap / CrossWalk style unit with real-time email push and notification via Google Cloud Messaging (this is a relatively energy-efficient way for android phones to get push notification and is natively supported by FastMail)."

Migrating away from GMail for privacy reasons and he still ends up with Google for functionality...

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by m0nty » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:35 PM UTC

> I had to deal with keeping my server out of over-enthusiastic spam blacklists

My domain got blacklisted once. I contacted the service concerned (i.e. the people running the blacklist) and they said my web domain had appeared in the footer of a spam email.

"So, do you have any evidence I put it there, or paid someone to put it there?"

"No."

"So you'll blacklist random domains a spammer puts in their email? Because that's what happened here."

I was surprised (and still am) that this kind of service could be so naive. My domain was literally just a bare http://domain.com/ in the footer, no link or advertising associated with it at all. Domain blacklist successfully polluted, as far as the spammer was concerned.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by childifchaos » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:36 PM UTC

Who cares? Why go through all that effort just to move your data out of the US, if they really wanted to read that they would, but they most likely would not care.

Silly over reaction. Your going to use a service that is not as good, waste a bunch of on importing/exporting for reasons that would have made no difference to your life.

So your actively choosing to downgrade your life to spite someone else. Smart move.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by lorenzhs » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:37 PM UTC

bartkappenburg wrote: post #3

"I do have FastMail’s Android app on my telephone. The app is a Cordova / PhoneGap / CrossWalk style unit with real-time email push and notification via Google Cloud Messaging (this is a relatively energy-efficient way for android phones to get push notification and is natively supported by FastMail)." Migrating away from GMail for privacy reasons and he still ends up with Google for functionality...

Do you know what data is transmitted via GCM? It could be a simple "hey check your email" ping to trigger a sync. I doubt the message size allows for much more anyway. It might also be encrypted, whatever it contains.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by lorenzhs » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

childifchaos wrote: post #5

Who cares? Why go through all that effort just to move your data out of the US, if they really wanted to read that they would, but they most likely would not care. Silly over reaction. Your going to use a service that is not as good, waste a bunch of on importing/exporting for reasons that would have made no difference to your life. So your actively choosing to downgrade your life to spite someone else. Smart move.

FastMail's servers are in the US. The company is based in Australia.

I recently moved my email to FastMail and I really like it. I even prefer its web interface over Gmail's. Please explain why you feel that FastMail's service is inferior. My experience has been to the opposite.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by readhn » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

If you are concerned about privacy and gov tracking and getting their hands on your email then whats the point of migrating from one "unsecure" email provider (gmail) to another one (fastmail)? With some of the fastmail servers in US jurisdiction your email is just as safe as with gmail.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by Aoyagi » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

childifchaos wrote: post #5

Who cares? Why go through all that effort just to move your data out of the US, if they really wanted to read that they would, but they most likely would not care. Silly over reaction. Your going to use a service that is not as good, waste a bunch of on importing/exporting for reasons that would have made no difference to your life. So your actively choosing to downgrade your life to spite someone else. Smart move.

Downgrade?

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by 0x0 » Mon, Aug 08, 2016, 1:39 PM UTC

AdamN wrote: post #2

"If you use any Apple iOS devices to read your mail, you’ll be pleased to know that FastMail, with help from the big A, fully supports iOS push." This is huge! I thought it was just Apple being idiots. I didn't realize that third-party non-Exchange servers could push to iOS!!!

I wonder how that works? I found an "open source" project that apparently requires OSX server to generate "com.apple.servermgrd.apns.mail" push gateway certificates: https://github.com/st3fan/dovecot-xaps-daemon