Ecological Wealth of Nations
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Ecological Wealth of Nations
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#2Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print?
A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
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#3"We are fucked"
For constantly being alarmist and crying wolf? Yes.
Anyways, what happened to the editorial rule here where the title was supposed to match TFA's title?
EDIT: Title has been appropriately edited. Thank you.
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#4Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print? A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
Yeah that just screams "externalities" to me, and if that's true it undermines the whole dataset.
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#5Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print? A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
Deliberately managing the rate of growth of its population would reduce its global footprint, but we're unable to sustainably meet 0 deficit anywhere unless you commit mass genocide.
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#6Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print? A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
Might be from the UE green/carbon certificates but don't quote me on that.
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#7So what are the real options of survival?
a) accelerate migration to Mars
b) population control?
Anything else we can do to prevent "fucked"?
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#8The fundamental problem with Malthusianism is that it is static thinking. It projects on the basis of no change in technology, as if the present moment continues eternally. This is why all statements to date on running out of X or Y at time T in the future have proven false. What actually happens is that people look ahead, forecast increased prices for X, and then the more adventurous go and build a better way of getting X, or create a different resource X1 that can be used instead.
It is never different this time.
Arguably alarmism that fails to consider technological process is a necessary part of the signaling mechanism by which realistic price forecasts are established, an example of the market performing its usual strange alchemy in turning (often willful) ignorance into something useful, but that doesn't stop it from being frustrating.
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#9Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print? A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
Yeah that just screams "externalities" to me, and if that's true it undermines the whole dataset.
It is a genuine question, not a rhetorical question putting into question the data, Netherlands has currently a deficit of 4.1 GHA.
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#10Just wondering, how can a small country like for example the Netherlands, with no vast tree wildlife for example, get to a neutral or even positive foot print? A trading nation by roots, is it even possible to get to 0 deficit?
They started with a surplus as everybody else and they run into a defict, like most of the rest of the world, including many large countries. Unsustainable growth except something like a technological miracle or a plague happen? Probably.