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American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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Drivers are cheap. Eliminating them won't yield much. Improved safety will be the biggest gain The article cites $40k average pay per driver. That's fast-food wages

>The article cites $40k average pay per driver. That's fast-food wages Not really. That's basically $20/hour full-time.

Sure. But you can ship a truckload of boxes across the country. The driver part of the cost is a buck a box? Which is something sure but not a deal breaker.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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I am pretty sure Luddites had very similar arguments back in the 19th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite If you look back at it, they were on the wrong side of history/argument. Automation is going to keep going, no matter what, and it is mostly a good thing. Yes, we might have few years of uneasy adjustment times, but things will sort themselves out on the long run. Think of it, one modern excavator is m…

Viewed from another perspective the Luddites were self employed, worked from home, and set their own hours. They didn't want to work 8 to 8 in a dangerous factory for a rich guy.

Also, they were lucky to live past 40.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

#83

Yeah, I've been thinking lately as well, why are we doing that? I mean as a society? (I recall a phrase said by someone, that we are consciously building a future nobody wants to live in.) What exactly are we getting from that? Ultra-rich, namely car companies owners and shareholders, will become even more rich. (Why are they doing it, by the way, don't they have enough super-cars, mansions, yachts already?) What am…

I guess you have to ask yourself what the point of life is.

If it's just to keep busy, then yeah, we should stop technological advancement.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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Yeah, I've been thinking lately as well, why are we doing that? I mean as a society? (I recall a phrase said by someone, that we are consciously building a future nobody wants to live in.) What exactly are we getting from that? Ultra-rich, namely car companies owners and shareholders, will become even more rich. (Why are they doing it, by the way, don't they have enough super-cars, mansions, yachts already?) What am…

> There are technologies that are genuinely useful, like space exploration

vs

> And there are "comfort gimmicks" like ... toasters

???

One of these things is more important and useful to the ordinary person's life than the other, and it's not throwing computers at the stars.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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I think what you are missing is the fact that this time the changes will take place much faster. With farming, the changes were slower and generational.(The children of farmers didn't do farming). And still these changes had colossal impact on societies(and a lot of blood was spilled).

Humans have a tendency to always think "it's different this time". Trucking won't disappear overnight.

Are you actually denying that change doesn't happen faster and faster? That's what technology is. It's compounding advancement.

It might not disappear overnight but it sure as hell isn't going to take 150 years!

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

#86
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Vox writers should be more worried than drivers. Driving a car, dealing with other users on the road, making regulators happy are all difficult problems. Meanwhile, I have already seen Reddit bots which summarise submissions. How far off are from one that will rehash 2-3 articles and toss in an infographic (created elsewhere)?

Kinda already happening, see: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/i-used-to-write-apocalypse-... "the practice of article spinning, in which the same human-written article is quickly reorganized and reworded to create one or more additional “new” articles. (This is often done by software that has a built-in spintax that replaces keywords in the text with synonyms.)"

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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Drivers are cheap. Eliminating them won't yield much. Improved safety will be the biggest gain The article cites $40k average pay per driver. That's fast-food wages

>The article cites $40k average pay per driver. That's fast-food wages Not really. That's basically $20/hour full-time.

HN tends to be ludicrously out of touch when it comes to wages/salaries.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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I bet developers will start to lose jobs to AI. Maybe before truck drivers do. The reaction here on HN will be something to behold.

It's already happened. Those AIs are called compilers. Compilers get more powerful every year. If you took them away, there aren't enough people on the planet to do the same job with assemblers.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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Yeah, I've been thinking lately as well, why are we doing that? I mean as a society? (I recall a phrase said by someone, that we are consciously building a future nobody wants to live in.) What exactly are we getting from that? Ultra-rich, namely car companies owners and shareholders, will become even more rich. (Why are they doing it, by the way, don't they have enough super-cars, mansions, yachts already?) What am…

> 7% cheaper

Meaning all Americans get a 7% raise.

Re: American truck drivers could lose their jobs to robots

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or... decreased shipping costs will go into the pockets of the business owners as additional profits. Since I'm already used to paying $X for that, why would you necessarily cut that out when you can keep it? Just another possibility.

Because a competitor will come along and do so

And yet here we are at the peak of wealth disparity because of exactly this happening.

Relying on abstract economic theories about market efficiency is stupid when you're literally watching this happen all around us.

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