What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by nonexec » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 4:22 AM UTC

I want to learn Javascript, for standalone purposes, mostly (I'll also be learning PHP/MySQL) -- Is it essential to learn HTML/XHTML etc for this?

If so, does anyone recommend a book that teaches these things, it doesn't have to be a singular book, but perhaps, a number of books that are at the top of your list?

Thanks.

This question is a bit n00bish, so disregard any it if you want.

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by anactofgod » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 4:26 AM UTC

JavaScript: The Good Parts http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517748

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by nonexec » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 4:29 AM UTC

anactofgod wrote: post #2

JavaScript: The Good Parts http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596517748

I'll check it out (note that I know no HTML/CSS) but I do know some C, and a tinsy bit of x86 asm.

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by oomkiller » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 5:13 AM UTC

Build something real, use jQuery, and look at other peoples' code.

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by Legion » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 8:29 AM UTC

You seem to have a list of things you want to learn, but you don't seem to have a real clear concept of what to use them for.

JavaScript doesn't tend to "stand alone". It is primarily used for client-side scripting for web applications. While that's not the only thing it's used for, if you had some other specific use in mind, you'd probably be mentioning it.

You ask if it's essential to learn HTML. Well, you're talking about languages that are typically used for web development, and HTML is the final product these things spit out and send to the user. Given that, HTML seems like a very strange thing to try and intentionally keep in a knowledge blind spot.

Your post sounds like you're looking to pad out a resume with specific things, and you don't really understand yet what those things are. I apologize if that assumption is in error, but if it's true, there's really nothing wrong with that.

But I would suggest, rather than trying to maintain that HTML blind spot, you actually start there. Pick up a copy of "Head First HTML with CSS". Then pick up the brilliant Douglas Crockford book on Javascript mentioned by another replier. Also check out Mozilla Developer's Center's JavaScript area (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/JavaScript)

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by trafnar » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 9:21 AM UTC

as a professional web developer, who has taught classes on the subject, i recommend you learn html, css, javascript, php, mysql. in that order, with a good deal of overlap.

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by scorpioxy » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 10:44 AM UTC

For javascript, i found the book "Javascript: The Definitive Guide" by David Flanagan to be very good. It's quite comprehensive. Although i am not sure how good it would be as an introductory book.

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by csomar » Sun, Mar 28, 2010, 3:59 PM UTC

HTML is not hard to learn, but you may also need to learn CSS.

First ask yourself a question: Why Am I learning JavaScript? If you want to build a dynamic website, then here's my suggestion.

First, I suggest that you get a look at Mozilla Documentation (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Guide)

You don't need to learn JavaScript from scratch if you are already a coder (let say C++), you are already familiar with things like loops, if..then. Even if not, the Mozilla documentation has got all you need.

Second, after this quick overview, I suggest to learn a framework (I'll recommend jQuery); now you'll need a book and I'll recommend that you read it fully (http://www.packtpub.com/jQuery/book). This will introduce you to jQuery, teach you all the concepts (you'll even find an appendix about JavaScript Closures).

Now unleash your hidden! I have took this road 2 months ago, and now getting some jobs on freelance sites to make an extra income.

Good luck!

Re: What's needed to learn Javascript?

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Post by nonexec » Tue, Mar 30, 2010, 9:56 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #8

HTML is not hard to learn, but you may also need to learn CSS. First ask yourself a question: Why Am I learning JavaScript? If you want to build a dynamic website, then here's my suggestion. First, I suggest that you get a look at Mozilla Documentation ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Guide ) You don't need to learn JavaScript from scratch if you are already a coder (let say C++), you are alread…

Do you have a guide for HTML/CSS :)

Thanks, best response so far.