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Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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It's amazing that even on HN, the conversation is no longer moored to the past. Copyright in America has been extended beyond reasonable restriction, driven by the MPAA and RIAA who began chipping away at the net as we knew it, and continue to do so today. All of this at the behest of firms which continue to use the most interesting of accounting techniques to show losses, while simultaneously doing everything in the…

Here's an interview question I might pose to candidates (for a coding job):

"Which torrent site with access to popular songs and movies over the past 5 years has been the best, meaning the one you use most?"

My candidate responds and says "Pirate Bay" or "Kat".

If I have several candidates, this guy will be the last possible choice if every candidate is qualified because I'm assuming he's okay with using copyrighted works without paying.

Consider these scenarios -- stealing in your opinion?

- go to a restaurant, eat a meal, then leave without paying (you enjoyed something you were supposed to pay for but you did not pay)

- use public transit and not pay for the ride

- hail a taxi then run away when you arrive at the destination and not pay

If I asked a candidate "would either of these 3 scenarios above be okay?" -- would they expect me to hire them if they said one or more would be acceptable?

If I asked the candidate "how many times have you enjoyed a copyrighted film or recording -- and not paid?" -- 99.99% sure that every candidate would say 'never' even if they'd done so dozens of times.

Why would they lie to me about that? "If I tell the hiring manager I watch, listen to copyrighted stuff without paying, he might think that was wrong and not hire me, so I have to lie."

"It's not stealing, I just disagree with copyright laws/distribution channels/etc."

No it's stealing.

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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> There is also the argument that a large portion of those people would never have paid for your content in the first place So? If you make a product you usually pay a lot of attention to price it in a way that your target market can afford. The people that can't pay for it aren't supposed to get it for "free" (if you everyone accepted this logic capitalism as we know it would crumble). I say this as someone who pira…

capitalism wouldn't "crumble" if people who had no need for a product happened to have possession of it. If I had a free tugboat in my back yard, that does't alter the market for tugboat operators in any nearby port. I thought that it has been economically proven that digital goods such as mp3 downloads have zero value, since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0.

> since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0

How about the first copy? That cost "0" too?

If not, are you suggesting the first buyer pay full price and everyone else get it for free?

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is also the argument that a large portion of those people would never have paid for your content in the first place So? If you make a product you usually pay a lot of attention to price it in a way that your target market can afford. The people that can't pay for it aren't supposed to get it for "free" (if you everyone accepted this logic capitalism as we know it would crumble). I say this as someone who pira…

capitalism wouldn't "crumble" if people who had no need for a product happened to have possession of it. If I had a free tugboat in my back yard, that does't alter the market for tugboat operators in any nearby port. I thought that it has been economically proven that digital goods such as mp3 downloads have zero value, since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0.

> since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0

How about the first copy? That cost "0" too?

If not, are you suggesting the first buyer pay full price and everyone else get it for free?

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

#324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is also the argument that a large portion of those people would never have paid for your content in the first place So? If you make a product you usually pay a lot of attention to price it in a way that your target market can afford. The people that can't pay for it aren't supposed to get it for "free" (if you everyone accepted this logic capitalism as we know it would crumble). I say this as someone who pira…

capitalism wouldn't "crumble" if people who had no need for a product happened to have possession of it. If I had a free tugboat in my back yard, that does't alter the market for tugboat operators in any nearby port. I thought that it has been economically proven that digital goods such as mp3 downloads have zero value, since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0.

> since each additional copy costs the manufacturer 0

How about the first copy? That cost "0" too?

If not, are you suggesting the first buyer pay full price and everyone else get it for free?

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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http://www.idope.se/ looks pretty decent.

I haven't found anything on the internet regarding idope.se but it seems to be pretty nice. I suppose you're the admin? How sure are you that "servers never go down"?

No @kinleyd is not the admin, I AM :p This project was developed the next day after we knew KAT was taken down, it's very very new, and we are a very small team, so you won't find anything about it on the Internet, especially when we never promoted it decently We only intended to make simple products that everyone can enjoy, we don’t make bucks out of it, and thus we promise no annoying pop-up Ads. Regarding the server-never-go-down thing, the server provider we chose will protect our servers even from hurricanes, earthquakes, nuclear bombs…Honestly idk how they are capable of that, sounds pretty badass.

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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post #4

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http://www.idope.se/ looks pretty decent.

I haven't found anything on the internet regarding idope.se but it seems to be pretty nice. I suppose you're the admin? How sure are you that "servers never go down"?

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Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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post #4

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http://www.idope.se/ looks pretty decent.

I haven't found anything on the internet regarding idope.se but it seems to be pretty nice. I suppose you're the admin? How sure are you that "servers never go down"?

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Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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I haven't found anything on the internet regarding idope.se but it seems to be pretty nice. I suppose you're the admin? How sure are you that "servers never go down"?

It does appear to require Javascript for something as simple as search, that's disappointing. Allowing Javascript can be iffy on most sites these days, but torrent sites are one category I refuse to whitelist, so that's a deal breaker for me. KAT and torrentz were both usable without Javascript, let's not take a step backwards in usability.

Hi~~Thank you for your comment~~Are you sure about KAT and torrentz not requiring Javascript though?

Re: Torrentz Shuts Down, Largest Torrent Meta-Search Engine Says Farewell

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> theft of service is that you simply don't want to pay Prices in Norwegian kroner (NOK) Apple Music 99 / 149 Spotify Prem. 99 iTunes Movies 49 to rent 24 hours 159 to buy (~same as DVD in supermarket) Netflix 79 99 129 HD? x y y Nr screens 1 2 4 I don't know how much these services think I can spend on entertainment every month, they are all priced as though they are the only service in the market and like I have no…

The only way digitally, you mean? Because you can still buy physical DVD's and Blu-Ray's, right?

DVDs and Blurays are region locked. I can buy the DVD, but I'm not allowed by law to modify my DVD player to change it from my current region to a region free device.

This is one of the problems with copyright laws - creeping scope to make normal sensible actions illegal. Why is it illegal for me to modify my DVD player to play a DVD I've had to import (at great personal expense) and that is not available (and probably won't ever be available) in my region?

There's a bunch of these.

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