What was the eventual outcome of Affinity Engines suing Google over copyright infringement with Orkut, the product? Back in 2004 they claimed Orkut, the person, copied source code when he left the company. I've always been curious what happened to that suit.
Hello from Orkut
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#252Shameless marketing bullshit. All they want is our money (personal data). I don't have to install the app to already know that you have to agree to allow access to everything on our phones.
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#253Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I see a large dissonance between this message and the 'hello' presentation. He laments that "we stay with locals when we travel abroad but we don't even know our neighbours at home", yet the new social network seems to push more in that direction (it talks about connecting people based on their interests, not their proximity). He says "we are afraid of what we don't know [...] we are…
Goodbye http://i.imgur.com/pYkbT3f.jpg
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
The real federated social platform is WordPress, which has millions of deployments and serves a quarter of the most popular websites: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management... I still remember the time around ten years ago when a lot of people had independent blogs mostly free of clickbait and advertising. Nowadays, many post on social media only.
Wordpress is not a federated platform, unless one wants to redefine federation.
In networked software, to be federated means users are able to send messages from one independent deployment to the other. In WordPress, this is achieved using linkbacks and feeds. So how would you define federation?
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#255Is this owned by Google?
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#256WOOF.
200 hello coins – $0.99 1100 hello coins – $4.99 2300 hello coins – $9.99 4800 hello coins – $19.99 13000 hello coins – $49.99
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apps have access to things on your phone that web pages do not. Like he mentioned, web pages can't send push notifications. To the best of my knowledge, web pages can't run in the background. Web pages will also work on any device, even Windows Phone or Firefox OS or WebOS or Blackberry, etc. I don't have the Facebook app installed on my phone. Not for privacy reasons, not because the web page is better, but because…
> web pages can't send push notifications https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Push_API > web pages can't run in the background Ok not the same at all, but you can use web workers for background threads: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Workers... And the above have also been used to produce offline-first applications. Unfortunately Apple has been bad at supporting these new APIs—ironi…
I think you're missing my point. It doesn't matter if Firefox supports it, Safari on my iPhone does not. Native apps do support all of these annoying features.
Let me give you an example. The official reddit app on my phone asks me maybe two or three times per week "Please enable push notifications". No. I don't want to do that. And I can't seem to get it to stop asking me. But on the website, in my browser, it's never asked me that. Because it can't. It's not allowed to. I'm not talking "is it technically possible from a pure theoretical standpoint", I mean in practice, is it physically possible for a web page on my iPhone to send push notifications and tear up my battery in the background? And I'm pretty sure the answer is "no". And that makes me very happy.
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No web version which also means there's probably noting really new or revolutionary. No federation. Not open. I've been messing with some of the old federated projects that never seemed to go anywhere. GNU Social, Diaosapra, etc. I'd like to just get a few nerd friends on one, just to say I'm at least trying to get away from the current model. Hello just looks like another ello.
The real federated social platform is WordPress, which has millions of deployments and serves a quarter of the most popular websites: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management... I still remember the time around ten years ago when a lot of people had independent blogs mostly free of clickbait and advertising. Nowadays, many post on social media only.
I wrote nearly the same thing last week. "I remember meritocracy, I remember trackbacks..." HN definitely helps to amplify the independent WP blogs' news. I was thinking, maybe there's a way to do P2P ranking/voting/tagging of headlines just using JavaScript, maybe it's an embed code, and that could disrupt Twitter in terms of surfacing important news items without censorship. But how scary would it turn out without censorship?
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> no web version means I won't bother at all. They are building a web version, they're just doing mobile first. And that may be a pretty smart move. "You will work with our product designers, mobile engineers, and backend engineers to create a distinct web version of our mobile offering." ( http://www.hello.com/en/jobs/ ) Orkut was global, and in a global context, mobile devices may be more heavily used than laptop /…
"They are building a web version, they're just doing mobile first" should be "They are building a web version, they're just doing native apps first" Doing mobile first can totally be web.
You're right, but "Mobile first" is the way they are describing themselves, it's the phrase used in the jobs link I posted. And I would personally interpret "mobile first" to imply native apps in just about any context, so I think it gets the point across.
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#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wordpress is not a federated platform, unless one wants to redefine federation.
In networked software, to be federated means users are able to send messages from one independent deployment to the other. In WordPress, this is achieved using linkbacks and feeds. So how would you define federation?
After Gravatars, I figured they'd try to disrupt Facebook with some kind of P2P plugin, like a Fidonet. But it never happened. Instead we got Disqus and IntenseDebate and bbPress...