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Re: Hello from Orkut

#231
"hello is the first social network built on loves, not likes." - Finally! Thank you Orkut for dedicating your life to the betterment of humanity. You had me at hell...

Re: Hello from Orkut

#232
Update. I posted one photo. I got rewards, which was like, little winks and a "kick me" sign I can put on I think someone elses profile. This app fucking sucks officially. Who signed off on releasing this? Its like orkut's poor design plus candy crush game incentivation. Goodbye, hello.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#233
post #107

If you click on the turkish version of the announcement, "gay" is replaced with "different" (in Turkish of course). Do people in Turkey say "farkli" (different) when they mean "gay"? Checked and all other translations actually say gay or homosexual. https://web.archive.org/web/20160708083122/http://orkut.com/...

I don't know what ratio of native English speakers know that the only meaning of "gay" was something like "happy" at some point. I know as a foreigner I learned this original meaning after years. I guess it's not surprising there may be borrowed, adopted terms in other languages.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#234
post #151

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

> no web version means I won't bother at all. They are building a web version, they're just doing mobile first. And that may be a pretty smart move. "You will work with our product designers, mobile engineers, and backend engineers to create a distinct web version of our mobile offering." ( http://www.hello.com/en/jobs/ ) Orkut was global, and in a global context, mobile devices may be more heavily used than laptop /…

"They are building a web version, they're just doing mobile first"

should be

"They are building a web version, they're just doing native apps first"

Doing mobile first can totally be web.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#235
The red flag for me is all the gamification (points/coins etc.), which is clearly all about increasing engagement for the sake of advertising, and strongly contrasts the opening message from Orkut ("I did it all for the love").

Re: Hello from Orkut

#236
post #107

If you click on the turkish version of the announcement, "gay" is replaced with "different" (in Turkish of course). Do people in Turkey say "farkli" (different) when they mean "gay"? Checked and all other translations actually say gay or homosexual. https://web.archive.org/web/20160708083122/http://orkut.com/...

I don't know what ratio of native English speakers know that the only meaning of "gay" was something like "happy" at some point. I know as a foreigner I learned this original meaning after years. I guess it's not surprising there may be borrowed, adopted terms in other languages.

Yeah, another prominent English surname that these days is sure to cause laughs in some circles: Cockburn. Though it's not pronounced as one might think.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#238
post #230

Is this a Google app? "hello.com" feels like very expensive domain! feels a bit downplayed. It would also explain the lack of desktop support.

Yeah this is confusing. The domains appear to belong to Google, but then the apps are listed under "Hello Network, Inc.". The overall language and design seem to be a bit unpolished for a Google product too.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#239
post #214

Male or female, honestly? In 2016?

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Not really. Despite it going on for a while now sadly quite a few sign-up processes[0] haven’t yet caught up. I understand grandparent’s irritation about a freshly created social network making such a blunder.

I may be stating the obvious, but for those who are wondering…

* One issue is that this information is sensitive for many, and begs the question why do you require it.

* Even if it’s not that sensitive for me, I still don’t get why are you asking. Are you planning to pivot into a dating app later?

* I personally know quite a few persons whose legally determined[1] sex may well differ from how they’d describe themselves for the purposes of, say, dating. Are you intending to compare this information with my gov records in future for ID verification purposes later? The straightforward binary selector kind of hints at it.

* Could it be that you just went with the cargo cult—didn’t really think about whether you need it or not and decided to collect as much info as used to be perceived acceptable just in case?

[0] Most popular ones like Twitter and Facebook, of course, are not among those.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_assignment#History_2 (criteria in various countries are evolving and can be difficult to keep track of)

See also:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender#Gender_taxonomy

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_assignment#Challenges_to_r...

Re: Hello from Orkut

#240

Orkut was our go-to social network as teens, before we all moved to Facebook in 2009. I'm was going to join this out of sheer nostalgia, but it appears to be lacking a web app. I'm curious as to why they went with ONLY native Android / iOS apps. That will not only drive away people like me, who prefer to use things from a desktop web browser, but also people in developing countries who might not have access to a smar…

Services are becoming more and more "Mobile first" in recent times. I do appreciate the importance of optimizing for mobile as a priority but share your sentiment in the poor experience left for those who us who actually like to use our laptops/desktops for some activities. Watch the trend reverse once form factors that are both portable and usable as primary workstations (for light work) become the norm (like MS and…

Native app first is the problem, not mobile first.

Web apps designed for mobile first often give you a better desktop experience. Designers making a desktop web app feel obligated to fill the screen with stuff to make it clear that they did a lot of work. But if they start with mobile it stays focused on what's important. Additional interface element for desktop end up as actual enhancements instead of distractions.

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