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Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by kordless »

erlehmann_ wrote: post #158
djsumdog wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No web version which also means there's probably noting really new or revolutionary. No federation. Not open. I've been messing with some of the old federated projects that never seemed to go anywhere. GNU Social, Diaosapra, etc. I'd like to just get a few nerd friends on one, just to say I'm at least trying to get away from the current model. Hello just looks like another ello.

The real federated social platform is WordPress, which has millions of deployments and serves a quarter of the most popular websites: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_management... I still remember the time around ten years ago when a lot of people had independent blogs mostly free of clickbait and advertising. Nowadays, many post on social media only.

Wordpress is not a federated platform, unless one wants to redefine federation.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by bato »

philsnow wrote: post #162
kid0m4n wrote: post #116

Why oh why limit it from being available in countries like India? You want users, we got users. Can never comprehend behind a geo wall for things like this (and can totally understand why Netflix wasn't earlier). PS: I wonder how much hello.com cost, and how did he have control over the orkut.com domain?

I wouldn't surprised if this is an attempt to get it established in the states / Europe before it gets popular in India / Brazil. One of the reasons a lot of people left Orkut is because it got too popular in Brazil and the default language on a lot of user groups / communities became Portuguese.

Yeah that was quite annoying, to say the least.

Any and every group would be spammed to death by Brazilians until you gave up and left them one by one.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by winterbe »

Tharkun wrote: post #190
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

Twitter Mobile is horrible. It's bloated, it frequently crashes my browser, it tries to do autocomplete of @handles but is slower than my touchscreen typing. In fact, Twitter Mobile is so bad that I'm considering installing an app to replace it.

Really? The new mobile Twitter site is super fast and reliable on my phone. The native app is still better but it gets really close in terms of performance and usability. However apps still have better OS integrations (notifications, sharing) and touch handling (swipe etc).

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by zlatan_todoric »

Yet another proprietary social network. No thank you, I will stick with Diaspora* as it is already really good.

If you really love people you would be open and not create another walled garden/closed ecosystem.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by moultano »

neogodless wrote: post #105
jv0010 wrote: post #65

I must say it's light & easy to use. Most importantly really fast and minimal taps. This is very important for any new app. As for the mobile only situation I would say this is a good business decision to minimise (not eliminate) spam accounts and possibly would be a good idea if people get indexed into search or people share this will promote installations. It worked well with IG this concept so I'd say in its early…

Teach me. How did you get through registration? (I'm on Android, and typing in my 4-digit code just whites everything out. I can't finish registration!)

Hit back, then when it asks if you want to leave registration hit continue. (I'm stuck on a later screen though.)

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by zodPod »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

I think they misunderstood the "Mobile First" approach!

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by lucb1e »

flushandforget wrote: post #174
overcast wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. You know what works for me to find "apps", the ubiquitous search engine. That should bring me to the web version of whatever you're selling me. If I feel it warrants enough to install another silly app, then maybe I will. But for now, the web version better be easily found, and full featured.

I know a few people that never install apps on their phones. Because they have no clue re: security, whether the app has access to this or that or whatever. I spoke to a family member and he says to me I've got this bus app for route X. And I say what, you've got an app for your local bus route, and he says yes. I then asked what was wrong with the website?

Same here. There is often no functional difference between a shortcut (from your homescreen) to the mobile website and the official app, so that's what I do. Goodbye cluttering downloads, permission systems, etc. It will need to load a few kilobytes of javascript extra upon every use (if caching doesn't solve that already), but I think that's totally worth it.
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