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Re: Hello from Orkut

#181
Read/Write API or it didn't happen. There was a time a few years ago when I thought companies were moving in the direction of ensuring their products could be extended through APIs first and foremost and launching those APIs a the time of product launches, but either I dreamed it or that time seems passed.

Is there some kind of organization out there whose mission is (at least partly) to pressure companies into providing data import/export and full access API's to prevent lock-in, data loss and such?

Re: Hello from Orkut

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post #123

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What is hooli?

Silicon Valley 's theoretical-lawsuit-friendly version of Google. It's interesting to me that a lot of shows do this, and I'm not sure why. Silicon Valley has Hooli. Veep has Clovis. Person of Interest had "Fetch and Retrieve", which honestly guys are you even trying. None of these shows seems to shy away from portraying other large tech companies, and it's trivially obvious even to someone nowhere near the industry…

It doesn't exactly fit Google - there are definitely several products that are a Google thing, but many other aspects that diverge. I think not naming them has multiple benefits. 1) Less likely to get sued, 2) They want to be able to diverge where it makes sense for the story, 3) They don't want to distract viewers with the real companies (since people have preconceived notions and might be pulled out of the story if it's inconsistent).

In fact, I think I remember at least one episode where Hooli mentions Google, so in this universe, it's a new company.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#184

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

Not just that, it also requires a phone number just to get started.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#188
Mobile only doesnt make any sense. I am not sitting on my mobile all the time, I am on my laptop, my gaming desktop, my android tablet, and now a beautiful surface. And I rarely ever install an app, I prefer web sites mainly because I hate the tracking, the permission grab, the clutter, the push notifications, and everything that comes with an app.

Re: Hello from Orkut

#189
post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably not the target audience. I'd bet ~98% of the people on HN aren't. The app is aiming at the Instagram, Snapchat crowd. Instagram didn't have a web front until recently, Snapchat still doesn't.

I have no idea who they think they're targeting but there's still a huge amount of friction involved in getting users to install an app. I don't think that a younger audience is immune to that.

Have you seen kids using Instagram and (especially) SnapChat?

Younger generations have a very different relationship to their devices than someone born, say, in the 70's or 80's has.

They care very little about websites.

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#190

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

Twitter Mobile is horrible. It's bloated, it frequently crashes my browser, it tries to do autocomplete of @handles but is slower than my touchscreen typing. In fact, Twitter Mobile is so bad that I'm considering installing an app to replace it.
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