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Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by asib »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

I would reckon you're definitely in the minority. Think of an app like Snapchat - huge number of users who couldn't care less about the lack of a web app.

Instagram has a web app, but I'd be curious to see how many users actually utilise it, in comparison to mobile app users. My guess is that mobile app users heavily outweigh web users. Instagram also chose to offer a restricted set of features on the web app, specifically to encourage using the mobile app.

That's not to say that a web app is unnecessary. I reckon that the number of web users for an app like Instagram is sufficient to warrant the existence and maintenance of a web app. But I think that the majority of social network consumers are not concerned either way, and to delay a release because the web app is still being developed would be a mistake.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by CarpetBench »

tommorris wrote: post #143
throwanem wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silicon Valley 's theoretical-lawsuit-friendly version of Google. It's interesting to me that a lot of shows do this, and I'm not sure why. Silicon Valley has Hooli. Veep has Clovis. Person of Interest had "Fetch and Retrieve", which honestly guys are you even trying. None of these shows seems to shy away from portraying other large tech companies, and it's trivially obvious even to someone nowhere near the industry…

Strange, I always thought of Hooli as Yahoo, but that might be because I know a lot of programmers who used to work at Yahoo and have heard the dysfunctions first hand over beer more.

I think that's the point. Hooli is a stand-in for any large tech company, and I don't think they mean to specifically single out google.

Sure, "Hooli search" and "Hooli phone" seems like a dead ringer for Google, but then I could easily point to the whole Nucleus thing and say "well duh, it's Dropbox!" Or I could look at Gavin Belson's extremely cut-throat persona and say "well duh, it's Amazon/Apple!"

I think the show does a pretty good job of not singling out any particular large tech company, but all of them in aggregate.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by donretag »

I am not signing up because there is no web version, but if someone did, can you please tell me if there is the capability to create your own handle in hello.com?

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by flushandforget »

overcast wrote: post #167
flushandforget wrote: post #165

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I haven't a smart phone, but I did try Win 10, and have a Win 8.1 machine kicking about. I don't use either much. But what I do struggle with, is finding apps. Under Linux, my Applications Menu at least groups by category, and makes it a bit easier for me to find something even if I have forgotten the name. On Win 10 I'm totally lost. I'd fear I'd have a whole heap of apps, and have no idea what they are or how to ge…

Exactly. You know what works for me to find "apps", the ubiquitous search engine. That should bring me to the web version of whatever you're selling me. If I feel it warrants enough to install another silly app, then maybe I will. But for now, the web version better be easily found, and full featured.

I know a few people that never install apps on their phones. Because they have no clue re: security, whether the app has access to this or that or whatever.

I spoke to a family member and he says to me I've got this bus app for route X. And I say what, you've got an app for your local bus route, and he says yes. I then asked what was wrong with the website?

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by pasbesoin »

So, this is Google? I approach Google "consumer products" mostly chronologically, now, and also with an eye to "dog food".

If it came after Docs ("Drive", whatever you want to call it, now), and/or it's not being used heavily, even at first primarily, within Google itself, I won't invest (my time, effort, learning, data) in it.

Simple as that. Because odds are, it won't stick around, nor get better.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by gtrubetskoy »

overcast wrote: post #128
TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #23

I'm echoing what others are saying: no web version means I won't bother at all. My phone has access to multiple great browsers. Building a good lightweight web app means I can access the content from anywhere without having to deal with annoyances of push notifications or (as much) creepy tracking. My favorite example of a mobile web app is currently Twitter Mobile [0]. I even like using it from my desktop. It's very…

I've had this sentiment for a couple years now. I'm so sick of having to download an app for everything. I want a slick web version that isn't half-assed, and is responsive to all devices. This is my number one priority building any new application.

> I'm so sick of having to download an app for everything.

Me too. BTW I think I'd be fine if the apps just downloaded themselves (assuming they're vetted and signed by the app store), and without occupying space on my phone-top (or whatever its called). I don't really need to know the difference between an app and the browser - for as long as it does its thing.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by kstrauser »

I don't mind installing Yet Another App, but seeing a brand new non-Retina app on an iPhone 6S Plus is jarring. The enormous fonts and buttons are hugely offputting, liked I've launched an iOS 5 app I haven't loaded in years.

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by xenophonf »

xorcist wrote: post #56
TekMol wrote: post #46

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Seconded. Is there a way to run Android apps in a VM on Linux? A VM for phone applications would be similar to a browser. A browser runs websites in a safe environment. A way to run apps in a safe environment would be nice.

Many. I've used Android-x86(.org) on KVM which worked so well I didn't pursue others. There is some semi-commercial fork called Remix OS that's more polished. If you only need to use an app and not the rest of the environment you can also run it as a Chrome plugin under ARC and not mess with virtualization at all.

I can't connect to bdownload.fosshub.com, which hosts the Android-x86 images. Are those download links working for you?

Re: Hello from Orkut

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Post by jachee »

throwanem wrote: post #129
avckp wrote: post #123

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What is hooli?

Silicon Valley 's theoretical-lawsuit-friendly version of Google. It's interesting to me that a lot of shows do this, and I'm not sure why. Silicon Valley has Hooli. Veep has Clovis. Person of Interest had "Fetch and Retrieve", which honestly guys are you even trying. None of these shows seems to shy away from portraying other large tech companies, and it's trivially obvious even to someone nowhere near the industry…

I think in Hollywood it's less "fear of getting sued" and more "You don't pay, you don't play" and Google (and Apple—look how many instances of Macbook-with-a-sticker-over-the-logo you see) won't pay for product-placement.
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