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Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by karma_vaccum123 » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:08 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #112

AWildDHHAppears wrote: post #111

Interesting. For projects that don't need a "community" we've been using Amazon CodeCommit. We don't like to use Github anymore because of the politics there. Example: We had a project involving software filters that included this sentence in the description: > Phase is related to time, but a pure time delay does not involve any phase shift. A pure time delay or "group delay" is constant with frequency. Phase shift v…

We removed our project and never used github again. That seems like a totally disproportionate approach versus responding with a polite 'this is a legitimate use of the word, thanks' message.

You shouldn't have to explain proper English or put up with someone who doesn't understand proper English subjecting you to a political litmus test.

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by favadi » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:08 PM UTC

AWildDHHAppears wrote: post #111

Interesting. For projects that don't need a "community" we've been using Amazon CodeCommit. We don't like to use Github anymore because of the politics there. Example: We had a project involving software filters that included this sentence in the description: > Phase is related to time, but a pure time delay does not involve any phase shift. A pure time delay or "group delay" is constant with frequency. Phase shift v…

I find that github's point of view on those problems are very hard to understand. For example, I once read a github's blog complaints that they don't have enough black, women leaders in github company. But if they really think all races/genders are equal, why they care about how many percent of leaders are non-white, or women?

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by calibraxis » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:08 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #112

AWildDHHAppears wrote: post #111

Interesting. For projects that don't need a "community" we've been using Amazon CodeCommit. We don't like to use Github anymore because of the politics there. Example: We had a project involving software filters that included this sentence in the description: > Phase is related to time, but a pure time delay does not involve any phase shift. A pure time delay or "group delay" is constant with frequency. Phase shift v…

We removed our project and never used github again. That seems like a totally disproportionate approach versus responding with a polite 'this is a legitimate use of the word, thanks' message.

It's a political act to publicly declare something along the lines of, "I quit because of their politics."

Fortunately, people like me see such declarations — "Hmm, I'd better now reactivate my paid GitHub subscription, and stop pushing people to competitors. Their attitude is improving!"

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by karma_vaccum123 » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:10 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #120

ep103 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would agree with you, if it weren't for all the other articles that have come out about politics and github.

People on the internet will make lots of noise about everything; paying undue attention to it is a bit silly, IMO.

we're not talking about anonymous web forums, we're talking about a git repository. It isn't "silly" to be bothered by random github employees scanning and flagging keywords

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by dr_zoidberg » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:12 PM UTC

danielrmay wrote: post #124

matthewmacleod wrote: post #118

GitLab is great and it's lovely to see a diverse selection of tools, but I'm not too convinced of the cost benefits – for a team with 100 developers, the annual cost of ~$11,000 is a pretty small amount compared to the maybe $25m salaries you'll be paying!

Avg salary of $250k per dev? Are you hiring?

Well where I live, the final salary you get in your pocket is about 60% of what the employer has to pay (the rest are taxes and "social charges" which include medical insurance and retirement funds). If it's the same where OP lives, then he was probably thinking about 125k salarys + taxes, charges, etc.

Also, he must be considering other expenses that come with having employees (though he did say "25m in salaries").

Still, if you bring the salaries to 100k a year, it still compares favorably to GitLab: $11k vs 10M.

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by tomjen3 » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:12 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #112

AWildDHHAppears wrote: post #111

Interesting. For projects that don't need a "community" we've been using Amazon CodeCommit. We don't like to use Github anymore because of the politics there. Example: We had a project involving software filters that included this sentence in the description: > Phase is related to time, but a pure time delay does not involve any phase shift. A pure time delay or "group delay" is constant with frequency. Phase shift v…

We removed our project and never used github again. That seems like a totally disproportionate approach versus responding with a polite 'this is a legitimate use of the word, thanks' message.

It seems totally reasonable to me, with Githubs action being completely, well, retarded.

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by Karunamon » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:15 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #120

ep103 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would agree with you, if it weren't for all the other articles that have come out about politics and github.

People on the internet will make lots of noise about everything; paying undue attention to it is a bit silly, IMO.

Anything and everything posted online can be handwaved with this argument.

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by favadi » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:15 PM UTC

krautsourced wrote: post #32

I really liked Gitlab when last I tried it, but in the end I went with https://gogs.io/ instead. For a small-ish team this felt like the most straight forward self-hosted solution. Still missing LFS though, which sucks, but it's being worked on.

Last time our team tried gogs, it is unusable. Some very important features are missing:

- code review

- deployment key

And the builtin SSH server will randomly hang once or twice every day.

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:16 PM UTC

danielrmay wrote: post #124

matthewmacleod wrote: post #118

GitLab is great and it's lovely to see a diverse selection of tools, but I'm not too convinced of the cost benefits – for a team with 100 developers, the annual cost of ~$11,000 is a pretty small amount compared to the maybe $25m salaries you'll be paying!

Avg salary of $250k per dev? Are you hiring?

You of course realize that "salary seen by the employee" is not at all the same as "costs payed by the employer". (For example, social security and health insurance).

Re: Moving to GitLab: Yes, it's worth it

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Post by tomjen3 » Fri, Aug 05, 2016, 2:16 PM UTC

Gitlab is pretty awesome, especially because they let you have unlimited private repositories on their website. So far my biggest annoyance is that when you click on a project you don't get a list of files (like you do on github) but just the projects readme, and even then only if you remembered to capitalize it.