I'd like to piggyback on this question with my own, which is relevant. tl;dr: do employers care at what age you finish your degree? Long story: I'm a 35 year old software engineer with 6 years of experience (mostly java/scala), currently an EU citizen residing in UK (London). I've studied CS when I was 18 at the universtiy, but dropped out (various reasons). Now since Brexit news I no longer feel I want to continue l…
Ask HN: Do employers care how long it took you to finish a degree?
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#22Depends where you try to work. Most employers are only going to care about how sell yourself as a potential asset to their company. In the end, the only thing that matters is your ability to perform your job. PS. I have a *friend who took 6 years to graduate with a BA in CS and now works for an awesome startup, that also employees some great programmers who never went to college. PPS. If you're in CS create a GitHub…
> PPS. If you're in CS create a GitHub account to act as your portfolio. this is totally unnecessary. no reasonable engineer that is asked to interview you will look at your github, or care if you have one.
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#23I got my CS degree after 6.5 years, normally it's a 5 year program, but I switch from engineering at one point and messed up a semester. No one ever cared. No one ever asked.
Only my university counselor noticed that I was taking a long time to graduate, and chastised me for taking all these exciting high level computer science classes and independent studies that I was interested in, instead of the boring low level pre-requisites required to graduate.
I finally took the required prerequisites and graduated, but unfortunately it was before "Rate My Professors", so I ended up failing and re-taking Statistics from Sergy Brin's dad, who's "awful" [1]. But those extra semesters gave me time to take some other great courses from diverse departments like Art and Hearing and Speech, which were really useful.
[1] http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=761872
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#24So yes, an employer might take into consideration how long it took your to finish your CS degree but ultimately it likely won't matter much when all the other factors are taken into consideration. It's one tiny factor that may be very important for you right now but doesn't actually provide much useful information to the employer.
EDIT: Just to make my point even clearer: taking slightly longer than expected most likely won't stand out at all. Taking significantly longer may be a negative factor, or it may be a positive factor, but either way it will most likely not be even close to one of the most important factors an employer might consider unless you literally submit a slip of paper with only that piece of info on it.
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#26I'd like to piggyback on this question with my own, which is relevant. tl;dr: do employers care at what age you finish your degree? Long story: I'm a 35 year old software engineer with 6 years of experience (mostly java/scala), currently an EU citizen residing in UK (London). I've studied CS when I was 18 at the universtiy, but dropped out (various reasons). Now since Brexit news I no longer feel I want to continue l…
Generally, a degree that comes after years of professional experience indicates a career switch, and those employees often need to work harder to find a good fit – usually, an organization that can make use of the skills they learned in the previous phase of their career. The reasons for this mostly come down to being very junior in skill level but having difficulty working under the same circumstances (low pay, trained by a 25 year old, potentially long hours...) of the typical junior hire.
There are exceptions to this, and there are many career switchers that navigate this well, but it's definitely worth keeping in mind.
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#27While I sometimes envy you (and others) for having CS degrees, I have never had a difficult time landing work as a developer. Imposter syndrome is still pretty high though.
As many others have suggested, just list the graduation date. That's all prospective employers care about. The fact that you have a CS degree matters more than how long you took to earn it.
But even that pales in comparison to your ability to clearly communicate what you're competent at. So focus on your communication skills and self esteem. And you'll do just fine!
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#28I'm reading Hacker News pretty regularly but didn't bother to register since now that I saw this question from JxGZV.
I come from really small EU country that was formerly communist and I'm also an CS student in my final year:) With that being said, I want to share my experience that I had recently with a pretty well known big company which is in the business of software engineering and was merged with another company in 2012. Because of various reasons I'm studying longer that it is expected, but nevertheless my CV is outstanding, since I have many achievements as an undergrad (participating at conferences with posters, winning hackathons etc....). To make long story short, I was asked what was I doing all these years and if I was "doing drugs or what?!".My answer was "No I did not". I didn't get an offer after this interview and was really happy because of that.
For anyone reading this, if you are in a similar situation, do not stress yourself with such questions. Just send the application and CV. If they ask questions like these, you can find a better employer and you probably don't want to work for them anyway. Believe me. I experienced it.
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#29who said u had to finish?? its what u know. its what u can do. paper is paper
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#30I'd like to piggyback on this question with my own, which is relevant. tl;dr: do employers care at what age you finish your degree? Long story: I'm a 35 year old software engineer with 6 years of experience (mostly java/scala), currently an EU citizen residing in UK (London). I've studied CS when I was 18 at the universtiy, but dropped out (various reasons). Now since Brexit news I no longer feel I want to continue l…
Legally, no they don't care. There will be hiring policies that dictate complete independence of non-relevant factors
Truthfully speaking, as long as you're under 45 and you've done something with your life during your non-working time, you're okay. It really helps if you can have a steady employment history, or at least proof you've been given money for doing something related to your degree, but my experience is that 45 is the first age where questions start to arise.
For traditional businesses in the US, longevity and dedication to the company are big. 5 years at a traditional company is considered a short time - the closer you get to retirement, the less you can give the company, and the closer you are to having age related ailments, etc. Age discrimination is very real, especially in tech (and doubly so in programming specifically), but you're well under the limit for most employers. A few start-ups might go cock-eyed at the graduation dates, but start-ups are a different beast entirely.