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Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by sbuk »

omginternets wrote: post #62
keyboardhitter wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to translate this to American slang, and failed miserably. Thank you, I laughed so hard

Ah, don't be so rough on the USA. We've got some colorful expressions of our own, especially in places like NYC, Texas and Philly. Now let me clear my throat and switch to French: Va te faire foutre grosse pute. Je te pisses à la raie [<- my personal favorite], sous-merde. Grosse cochonne. Enculé de pédé de sa mère la pute. Je t'emmerde. Je te nique ta race vieille pédale, nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de…

You for got one, espece d'un branleur...

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by gjm11 »

coldtea wrote: post #60
ars wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where? I've never heard that being anywhere in the Bible. There is a thing about not taking an oath in vain, but that's not the same as bad words, that's about keep a promise if you make one. (It's too bad the same words "swear" and "oath" is used for both intents.)

> Where? I've never heard that being anywhere in the Bible. Then you haven't look hard enough. E.g. > But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca,’ (idiot) shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, ‘Thou fool,’ shall be in danger of hell fire. MATTHEW 15:11 What goes into someone’s mout…

The first of those is about insulting people, not about swearing.

The second and third say you shouldn't say bad things, but don't say what counts as bad. To get "no swearing" from them you already need to have decided that swearing counts as "defiling" or "unwholesome".

(Definitely forbidden in the Bible: "taking God's name in vain", though it's not 100% clear exactly what that covers. Also, passing judgement on other people and eating shellfish.)

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by matwood »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #69
mhurron wrote: post #12

I find it funny an article on swearing is going to be discussed on a site where the general users will deride you and hold you as unprofessional for swearing on it. Perhaps we should have an article on the healing power of humour next.

There's a time and a place for everything. I may not respond to you if you say, "Hey, hand me that fucking thing right there." instead of, "Hey, hand me that RS-232 cable." I simply don't have time or the give a crap to try and translate. This is not an extreme example. It happens.

Time and place is key. Swearing is just another tool to express an emotion. A bug report comes in and you find and fix it in 5 minutes, "Hey I fixed that bug, fix is going out." A different bug report comes in that you stay up 24 hours finding and fixing, "Motherfucker! I finally found and fixed that issue that was fucking with our payment system. Have I mentioned that programming is fucking horse shit? I'm going to sleep now."

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by coldtea »

gjm11 wrote: post #72
coldtea wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Where? I've never heard that being anywhere in the Bible. Then you haven't look hard enough. E.g. > But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, ‘Raca,’ (idiot) shall be in danger of the council; but whosoever shall say, ‘Thou fool,’ shall be in danger of hell fire. MATTHEW 15:11 What goes into someone’s mout…

The first of those is about insulting people, not about swearing . The second and third say you shouldn't say bad things, but don't say what counts as bad. To get "no swearing" from them you already need to have decided that swearing counts as "defiling" or "unwholesome". (Definitely forbidden in the Bible: "taking God's name in vain", though it's not 100% clear exactly what that covers. Also, passing judgement on ot…

>The first of those is about insulting people, not about swearing.

Yes, but one of the main uses of swearing is insulting people.

Swearing when you hit your thumb with the hammer while nailing is not really that interesting a use case, nor are moral codes much concerned with that.

>The second and third say you shouldn't say bad things, but don't say what counts as bad.

I guess those are implied, as people of the era would know anyway.

>To get "no swearing" from them you already need to have decided that swearing counts as "defiling" or "unwholesome"

Well, swearing has been decided to count that way (by the public opinion, common moral rules, etc) in all societies for millennia.

The burden of proof would be on the side to argue that in the case of those gospel quotes, they suddenly are not meant as such.

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by baku-fr »

omginternets wrote: post #62
keyboardhitter wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried to translate this to American slang, and failed miserably. Thank you, I laughed so hard

Ah, don't be so rough on the USA. We've got some colorful expressions of our own, especially in places like NYC, Texas and Philly. Now let me clear my throat and switch to French: Va te faire foutre grosse pute. Je te pisses à la raie [<- my personal favorite], sous-merde. Grosse cochonne. Enculé de pédé de sa mère la pute. Je t'emmerde. Je te nique ta race vieille pédale, nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de…

"T'es con comme un manche, tu pues du cul et ta mère suce comme un aspirateur."

Frenchie here, that one got me giggling, well played.

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by Ntrails »

coldtea wrote: post #56
siliconc0w wrote: post #16

Valorizing language is silly. I remember in like 5th grade they moved the goal posts on us and made 'sucks' a 'bad word'. I was so thoroughly confused. How did a previously okay word become bad? They're tools in a box. They aren't inherently good or bad - the intent and meaning created by them are what matters. I similarly think it should be impossible for a word to offend someone. I think it's possible for meaning t…

> I similarly think it should be impossible for a word to offend someone. I think it's possible for meaning to offend and really only if you respect the person enough to provide some weight to that meaning. Sure, it's usually not the word, but the meaning ("intent"). But seriously, if some stranger comes and tells you "fuck off idiot", e.g. in the supermarket isle, then you wont be offended, because you don't "respec…

I'll probably be scared of that level of aggression without other interaction, but not offended?

Anyone is welcome to call me a "rancid sack of mould covered dick cheese" if they really want to - but unless i care about their opinion, it's unlikely to offend

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by gotchange »

A whole article dedicated to exploring the apparent benefits of swearing and not a single mention of its perceived cathartic effects?

I'm a bit disappointed to say the least. Anyhow, yeah swearing can help alleviate internal pain or stress for some people but you should use with moderation as it follows the law of diminishing returns and when you go overboard with it, it becomes increasingly useless.

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“Bad words,” Adams writes, “are unexpectedly useful in fostering human relations because they carry risk….We like to get away with things and sometimes we do so with like-minded people.”

Anyone have any idea what is this guy talking about?

I read this part many times but I couldn't get the "romantic" view that he holds for profanity and obscenities.

Re: Why swearing is good for you

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Post by [deleted] »

gotchange wrote: post #78

A whole article dedicated to exploring the apparent benefits of swearing and not a single mention of its perceived cathartic effects? I'm a bit disappointed to say the least. Anyhow, yeah swearing can help alleviate internal pain or stress for some people but you should use with moderation as it follows the law of diminishing returns and when you go overboard with it, it becomes increasingly useless. ----------------…

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