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The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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Re: The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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Also, in the case where you have a 2 students with perfect 4.0 (or better) GPA's, both got perfect SAT scores, etc- i.e., match eachother blow for blow, the only way groupthink people have thought of to get ahead is to have extracurriculars. Ideally GPA and SAT scores would make the distinction for us. The top X% of students would range from 3.5-4 in their GPA, or something like that. Unfortunately, grade inflation a…

> Ideally GPA and SAT scores would make the distinction for us. You think these are good measurements of student ability? For myself, I couldn’t complain about such a system, because (probably like many/most here) I did exceedingly well by such metrics. But to be honest, I think they are absolutely terrible.

Problem is that every other metric is absolutely worse.

When you think about it, the whole idea of rating one human being as "better" or "more deserving" than another is pretty much absurd. But universities have a limited number of spots that they can devote time and attention to, and they have to prune the applicant pool down to something manageable. People are very uncomfortable with randomness, so if a university's admission policy was "We'll pick 1 out of 10 at random", the applicants would go "WTF?" So they make up some arbitrary metrics, add in some guesswork, and try to assemble an incoming class that they feel will be as interesting as possible.

It's sort of unfortunate that their rather arbitrary decision acts as the gatekeeper to something that lots of people want - a good, high-paying, intellectually challenging job. Chalk up another one to "life's not fair".

Re: The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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"Show me a student making real money, and that is actually valued by the free market, and I will be impressed." I think posts like this actually reinforce the article's meta-point, which is that people are impressed by accomplishments that fit with the person's values where it's not obvious how to accomplish them . You (and many other readers of this site) value success in business. Even if you're currently making re…

You (and many other readers of this site) value success in business. Even if you're currently making real money, you probably weren't at age 17, and probably didn't have much of a clue how to at age 17, and so a 17-year-old making real money is impressive. I suspect the parent poster loath people who enjoy rent-seeking, political jockeying, and anything that scream power for power's sake. He want to make useful produ…

Or maybe they just value the ability to make more money than others.

Re: The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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I picked David because his achievements seemed more concrete. The "marketing" and "sustainability" stuff sounded like fluff to me. I didn't read much more of the article after I found out he chose the other guy.

As someone who actually goes to top school, I cannot even fathom how someone would think that being captain of a track team and learning calligraphy would be more impressive than lobby U.N. delegates. Track captains are a dime a dozen and there is nothing "impressive" about signing up for calligraphy class. Maybe those were the easy classes at his school - I don't know. But there's nothing inherently impressive about…

there is nothing "impressive" about signing up for calligraphy class. Maybe those were the easy classes at his school - I don't know. But there's nothing inherently impressive about taking calligraphy. I don't even know why you would put that on your resume unless you were going to write an essay about it.

Steve Jobs seems to think it was a big deal: http://www.google.com/search?q=steve+jobs+calligraphy

Re: The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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The concept of failed simulation is very interesting. I wrote a post about how the capability to simulate is important to programmers and designers, where the failure to simulate is produces bad code/products.

http://www.alwaysontechnologies.com/blog/2010/03/16/empathy-...

This article is about the inverse effect, which I didn't even think about at all.

Re: The Surprising Psychology of Impressiveness

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I picked David because his achievements seemed more concrete. The "marketing" and "sustainability" stuff sounded like fluff to me. I didn't read much more of the article after I found out he chose the other guy.

I chose Steve because he spent his time doing something that affects people other than himself. Most people I know have some aversion to changing the status quo. David has impressive accomplishments are of no importance to anyone but himself, so the state of things before and after David's accomplishments are more or less the same.

In other words, I'm impressed with Steve, not because I'm comparing the amount of work and effort they each put forth, but because Steve chooses to spend his time and efforts changing things.

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