Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

blog.peepcode.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 165 posts

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#151

Post by Semiapies »

ugh wrote: post #149
Semiapies wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the downside of a design-heavy blog post: people will talk about your design first.

Really? That’s where you want to go? It’s the author’s fault that people here talk (mostly) rubbish for trying to make his post look great (even if he falls short)? I don’t quite follow.

"Really? That’s where you want to go?"

Lose the ego-investment/chip on your shoulder/BS. Nobody's impressed, and this isn't a schoolyard.

Where I "want to go" is exactly what I said. People will talk about the design first: how much they like it, how much they don't like it, whatever. We are not robots, and those of us with normal vision will pick up on color, shape, and arrangement before they read any of the text.

Simple rule: if you're going to be offended at people talking quite a bit about the striking color (or other design element) you used for your web page, whether appreciatively or not, don't use that striking color.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#152

Post by Semiapies »

ugh wrote: post #131
jrockway wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "sneer and arrogance" displayed in the thread is from people who actually already implemented most of these features, and from people using those extensions. This article boils down to "It isn't pretty enough, and I didn't write it." In other words: no actual relevant content. Just a lot of pretty images as text, BIG FONTS, and whining.

Sigh. “Orange?! U R DUMB!!!!1!” – that’s what I don’t like. Not disagreement with the actual content of the article.

I take it you have eyesight that's near 20/20.

Mine's roughly that; the orange background is only a bit eye-straining for me.

For a lot of people with weaker sight, or outright visual disabilities that fall short of blindness, this would be entirely unreadable without Readability or similar tools.

Something that stops people from getting to content is noteworthy.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#153

Post by Semiapies »

KirinDave wrote: post #147
vcrash wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think that there's that much of a difference - The site starts out the same colour as the header, in fact, and fades gradually. The majority of the piece, however, is on quite bright orange. http://omploader.org/vM3h3OA/Sample.PNG (HN topbar, start of site, middle of site, bottom of orange section of site.)

I suppose the main argument was: “So what? Orange is not hard to read on. It sounds like you're complaining because you like to complain about different things.” Appropriate contrast was maintained, the entire design was not overly luminescent. Since it was the background color it did not create a wicked eye-draw the way the banner at the top of our comment pages here do. If you don't like unusual designs then you sh…

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1222313

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#154

Post by Flow »

silentbicycle wrote: post #139
Flow wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what people think. But Mac OS X is actually short-cut land. There are loads of short-cuts.

Can you use OS X entirely without a mouse?

I don't know. Never tried it.

I'm just very happy common things like closing a window(cmd-w), quitting and app(cmd-q) have sane and comfortable short-cuts compared to Windows.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#155

Post by KirinDave »

Semiapies wrote: post #153
KirinDave wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose the main argument was: “So what? Orange is not hard to read on. It sounds like you're complaining because you like to complain about different things.” Appropriate contrast was maintained, the entire design was not overly luminescent. Since it was the background color it did not create a wicked eye-draw the way the banner at the top of our comment pages here do. If you don't like unusual designs then you sh…

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1222313

I know people with severe visual disabilities. They have readers or tools to help them read things with far less objectionable layouts and designs than this one.

Saying every site has to avoid all interesting design so that people who are legally blind can—through supreme effort—read your page unassisted seems to be unreasonable at best and disingenuous at worst. Readability and screen readers and accessibility helpers and style removers exist for a reason and people who need them use them.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#156

Post by Semiapies »

KirinDave wrote: post #155
Semiapies wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1222313

I know people with severe visual disabilities. They have readers or tools to help them read things with far less objectionable layouts and designs than this one. Saying every site has to avoid all interesting design so that people who are legally blind can—through supreme effort—read your page unassisted seems to be unreasonable at best and disingenuous at worst. Readability and screen readers and accessibility helpe…

Huh. Have you actually managed to respond to any differing viewpoint here without wildly misrepresenting that person's remarks in a way that starts at disingenuous?

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#157

Post by maigret »

technomancy wrote: post #72
eitland wrote: post #54

Sounds like some people still haven't learned NetBeans or Eclipse. Takes some time getting used to, -just like vim or emacs, but once you get used to the keyboard shortcuts you get everything the author asked for. No mouse needed: check, fuzzy search: check, paths: check, metadata: check, beautiful: check

Works over SSH: not so much.

You can always put your IDE workspace on a networked filesystem the target system has also access on, so you get similar results. Also SSH can be started inside eclipse for additional tasks.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#158

Post by KirinDave »

Semiapies wrote: post #156
KirinDave wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know people with severe visual disabilities. They have readers or tools to help them read things with far less objectionable layouts and designs than this one. Saying every site has to avoid all interesting design so that people who are legally blind can—through supreme effort—read your page unassisted seems to be unreasonable at best and disingenuous at worst. Readability and screen readers and accessibility helpe…

Huh. Have you actually managed to respond to any differing viewpoint here without wildly misrepresenting that person's remarks in a way that starts at disingenuous?

Have I wildly misrepresented the remark you linked?

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#159

Post by ugh »

Semiapies wrote: post #152
ugh wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. “Orange?! U R DUMB!!!!1!” – that’s what I don’t like. Not disagreement with the actual content of the article.

I take it you have eyesight that's near 20/20. Mine's roughly that; the orange background is only a bit eye-straining for me. For a lot of people with weaker sight, or outright visual disabilities that fall short of blindness, this would be entirely unreadable without Readability or similar tools. Something that stops people from getting to content is noteworthy.

I don’t like the background. I thought it was nearly unreadable. Not worth talking about that, though.

Re: Am I the Only One Who Uses a Text Editor to Edit Files?

#160

Post by Semiapies »

ugh wrote: post #159
Semiapies wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you have eyesight that's near 20/20. Mine's roughly that; the orange background is only a bit eye-straining for me. For a lot of people with weaker sight, or outright visual disabilities that fall short of blindness, this would be entirely unreadable without Readability or similar tools. Something that stops people from getting to content is noteworthy.

I don’t like the background. I thought it was nearly unreadable. Not worth talking about that, though.

Then don't talk about it.

Other people thought it was worth talking about with regards to a blog post by a guy who makes a point of giving each post a unique, custom design.

The color choice also hasn't been the only thing criticized - the layout is cluttered and confuses some people. It's overall a much poorer design than many, if not all, of the other posts on that site.

Post reply on HN