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In a Sign of Broader Ambitions, Facebook Opens Hardware Lab

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Re: In a Sign of Broader Ambitions, Facebook Opens Hardware Lab

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Ironically made by... HTC. (The Rift is probably the first FB consumer device where they were completely responsible for the hardware.)

> the first FB consumer device where they were completely responsible for the hardware To be fair they bought Oculus after the hardware had been created and funded by crowd sourcing.

The first and second development kits, sure, but the consumer version was developed after the acquisition.

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I don't trust facebook with the data I give it now, and they want me to trust locked hardware they made?

> I don't trust facebook with the data I give it now

Nice contradiction there. If you don't trust them, don't give them that data. If you do you implicitly will have to trust them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the first FB consumer device where they were completely responsible for the hardware To be fair they bought Oculus after the hardware had been created and funded by crowd sourcing.

Guess everyone forgets that...

Considering the widespread outrage and very public fallout with Mojang, I don't think everyone has quite forgotten just yet.

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FB's hardware strategy is confusing. Oculus was their first, real consumer hardware release and effort. The rollout was amateur hour between delays, customer service, etc, but that's forgivable and understandable at some level for a first major release. But then Vive showed up to the party, shipped nearly on the same time frame, and delivered a product that's in striking distance of headset quality and WINS in intera…

Hardware is commoditized but brands are not. Anyone can make handbags but only some can sell them for $5000. Oculus has potential to be as profitable as Apple if they absolutely nail the execution and the experience. But it remains to the be seen if the Rift is an iphone or a newton. Being tethered to a high end gaming pc "dooms" it to be a niche product. How soon can Oculus either ally with a console or make a conso…

Facebook is not trying to build a premium VR business w/margins akin to Apple, that would be completely inverse to their business strategy.

Facebook is much more akin to Google than to Apple because Facebook & Google's primary business is the same - advertising.

And if you're an advertising business your primary objective is driving more eyeballs / more users.

Google's first VR solution demonstrates this - they GIVE it away via Cardboard.

Just look at how Facebook approaches the GearVR initiative - I can't imagine they're making much of a licensing premium but it's dramatically increasing their footprint to be the premier VR solution of Samsung phones (1)

Which is where I come back to why bother with the hardware side as a serious business at all?

Even if I argue that the Oculus Rift is just a red herring to push the medium forward on the hardware side I lose the thread because they seem to be playing such hard defense on the hardware side w/the "app" store . . .

Just release FB Social VR already and win the game, stop damaging your brand w/consumers and developers . . .

(1) http://fortune.com/2016/05/11/oculus-samsung-gear-1-million-...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess everyone forgets that...

Considering the widespread outrage and very public fallout with Mojang, I don't think everyone has quite forgotten just yet.

It's a real shame oculus has gone down this path. Previously I thought VR was a dumb gimmick that wouldn't go anywhere. After getting a vive though my mind has completely changed. I hope the other companies getting into the space don't try to ruin it.

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Hardware is commoditized but brands are not. Anyone can make handbags but only some can sell them for $5000. Oculus has potential to be as profitable as Apple if they absolutely nail the execution and the experience. But it remains to the be seen if the Rift is an iphone or a newton. Being tethered to a high end gaming pc "dooms" it to be a niche product. How soon can Oculus either ally with a console or make a conso…

I think you nailed it. Oculus is order to not become a niche product needs to be sold as part of a console bundle. That would make premium VR to a one pressed button distance. Maybe Project Scorpio + Oculus? Scorpio specs seems to be enough for a good VR experencie.

> Oculus is order to not become a niche product needs to be sold as part of a console bundle

Facebook wants VR to be more than video games. Bundling the Gear with Samsung phones has been a success so far.

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Wouldn't 'Area 201' be a more confidence inspiring name, if we're sticking to HTTP status codes?

Let's hope it doesn't turn out to be a 417.

Or 418 :)

Edit: For reference, 418 is real. It is the "I am a teapot" error code, from an April fools RFC about teapots being internet connected, which I thought was at least marginally relevant to hardware hacking.

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