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PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Old executables, web sites, mailing addresses, and module names will forward to the new ones. We will work to make the transition as painless as possible and to preserve old references for as long as possible. So folks using Arc can probably expect mzscheme -f as.scm to still be supported for some time.

Doesn't Arc require you to use a version of mzscheme from 2007?

not since arc 3.1

http://arclanguage.org/item?id=10254

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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You are. They already have a dialect of Scheme that contains many extensions beyond the RxRS specs, this is just giving it a name so that people stop confusing "PLT's dialect of Scheme" with "Scheme in general". Personally, I'm not a big fan of the name "Racket", because it makes me think of tennis rather than racketeering. However, I do support the idea of having a PLT "brand" rather than a hodgepodge of names like…

racket n. an illegal or dishonest scheme Makes perfect sense.

Makes sense, but I'm not sure I like the way it's headed. Scheme is so named due to a Lisp system called Planner. "Scheme" and "Planner" (and, I suppose, "Gambit") have mostly neutral connotations. "Swindle", "Larceny", "Heist", and now "Racket" are obviously criminal.

It's not a good direction, PR-wise. You end up with people having to justify to their bosses why they want to use something called Racket for work, or justifying to parents why their kids are learning Racket in schools.

(And then there's the inevitable analogy: Python : Pythonista :: Racket : Racketeer)

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

racket n. an illegal or dishonest scheme Makes perfect sense.

Makes sense, but I'm not sure I like the way it's headed. Scheme is so named due to a Lisp system called Planner. "Scheme" and "Planner" (and, I suppose, "Gambit") have mostly neutral connotations. "Swindle", "Larceny", "Heist", and now "Racket" are obviously criminal. It's not a good direction, PR-wise. You end up with people having to justify to their bosses why they want to use something called Racket for work, or…

You end up with people having to justify to their bosses why they want to use something called Racket for work, or justifying to parents why their kids are learning Racket in schools.

I doubt it.

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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I've been using Clojure a lot and have been lamenting the fact that Clojure, while great for building applications isn't great for shell scripting. Racket may be just the tool I reach for when I can't write it in Clojure.

2010 looks like it's going to be a great year for Lisp.

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Strange name change, but a good programming environment (although I more frequently use Emacs+Gambit-C Scheme because I like being able to effortlessly build small compiled applications - harder to do in PLT Scheme).

I look forward to the Racket release this summer.

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Kind of like naming something with the word "hacker", it could be something good or something bad. The "News" bit of "Hacker News" adds context that makes it seem legit, even if you initially take "Hacker" as something negative. There is no implicit context for "PLT Racket". Just my $.02, but it's not a good choice of names.

Re: PLT Scheme being renamed to PLT Racket

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Why can't they be like clojure and pick a name that isn't overloaded by everything else...

'PLT Scheme' to just 'Skeem'?

Say this paragraph out loud:

I don't use Gambit, I use Skeem. Yes, I know Gambit is Scheme. Skeem is also Scheme, just a different Scheme.

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