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When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Articles like these never fail to drive home just how much of a US patsy the EU has always been.

Indeed. And yet you keep seeing articles from NY Times, Bloomberg, and even Reuters, with an almost negative tone about how the EU basically wants to destroy American companies by putting some more regulations on them or daring to investigate them for anti-trust or tax avoidance.

And here comes China that basically says from the start to all foreign companies: "You give us half, or you're out. Take it or leave it. And we still get to impose whatever regulations, official or unofficial, want, depending on our mood. We'll also turn a blind eye to local Chinese companies completely ripping off your technology. Sounds good?"

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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The West and China are playing a global chess game and have been for some time. An impoverished China was not in the West's interests and so they agreed to buy all kinds of lowish tech Chinese made goods. In return most jurisdictions enforced a balance of trade with China, with the exception of the US.

On their end China insisted on joint ventures and technology transfer to the extent Western companies would comply. Western companies were reluctant to give up their best tech so China ended up with last generate tech which, still, was way better than it had. This was a status quo that benefited both sides enough that it worked well enough for 20 to 30 years.

Now the stakes are getting higher. China wants to level up by buying foreign tech companies with, essentially, state capital and the West naturally doesn't see that to be in their interests and so they block those purchases.

The West wants to enter China with their latest internet block busters and China doesn't see that in their interests and so they block that but, more often in a soft way. They open the door, allow foreign companies to enter and train locals in the technology and then slam the door when they gain traction.

Both sides are well aware of the stakes and the situation what's evolving are the techniques and strategies of the competitors. It's a big boy's game for large nation states and if you're not that big you're likely to take some bruises. If you're a fan of raw capitalism though pull up a chair and a beer and watch the game.

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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Articles like these never fail to drive home just how much of a US patsy the EU has always been.

Unlike the EU, China has the capability to build companies that could rival top US players. So it's unsurprising that China takes the uncompromising approach to foreign investment that they do.

I'd love to see an American's reaction to a speech where Xi Jinping exclaims that he will ensure that all Americans start using Baidu as their search engine.

Re: When It Comes to China, Google’s Experience Still Says It All

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The West and China are playing a global chess game and have been for some time. An impoverished China was not in the West's interests and so they agreed to buy all kinds of lowish tech Chinese made goods. In return most jurisdictions enforced a balance of trade with China, with the exception of the US. On their end China insisted on joint ventures and technology transfer to the extent Western companies would comply.…

> China ended up with last generate tech

we are way past that point. China has leap frogged pretty much everyone else in every aspect. It took China less than a year to build the worlds fastest supercomputer (unclassified) after US placed restrictions on related technology exports to China.

China was building components for supercomputers over the past decade, they would show case a network, a small processor, cooling system etc individually. No one and I say again, NO ONE, expected they would build a full system at such a capability in such a short time.

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