Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
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Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
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Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#2I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#3I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_an…
Every single Microsoft-related news item does not require mention of a 20-year-old business strategy from before the Internet era.
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#4I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_an…
Every single Microsoft-related news item does not require mention of a 20-year-old business strategy from before the Internet era.
Possibly they don't mean anything evil here, but as I said, MS aren't free of lock-in nastiness yet. Otherwise they would have joined the Vulkan working group already. They simply didn't earn trust in that area.
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every single Microsoft-related news item does not require mention of a 20-year-old business strategy from before the Internet era.
Possibly they don't mean anything evil here, but as I said, MS aren't free of lock-in nastiness yet. Otherwise they would have joined the Vulkan working group already. They simply didn't earn trust in that area.
What could Microsoft gain by helping make Vulkan better? I can see them wanting to support it on Windows but Nvidia and AMD will do that for them so what can MS possibly gain?
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#6I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_an…
Every single Microsoft-related news item does not require mention of a 20-year-old business strategy from before the Internet era.
If it quacks like a duck.
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
Possibly they don't mean anything evil here, but as I said, MS aren't free of lock-in nastiness yet. Otherwise they would have joined the Vulkan working group already. They simply didn't earn trust in that area.
What could Microsoft gain by helping make Vulkan better? I can see them wanting to support it on Windows but Nvidia and AMD will do that for them so what can MS possibly gain?
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Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Possibly they don't mean anything evil here, but as I said, MS aren't free of lock-in nastiness yet. Otherwise they would have joined the Vulkan working group already. They simply didn't earn trust in that area.
What could Microsoft gain by helping make Vulkan better? I can see them wanting to support it on Windows but Nvidia and AMD will do that for them so what can MS possibly gain?
> What could Microsoft gain by helping make Vulkan better?
Developers' efficiency. But MS understanding of "gain" is a crooked one. They want to prevent developers from releasing anything for the competition, so they use tools to make it harder (lock-in tactic). Or if they can't prevent it, they want to tax it (i.e. to make it more expensive). It is clearly crooked.
And I don't mean just to make Vulkan better. I mean MS starting supporting it instead of DX12. Same AMD can produce Vulkan support for them for Xbox quite easily.
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#9I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_an…
Every single Microsoft-related news item does not require mention of a 20-year-old business strategy from before the Internet era.
Actually, this may be a valid concern. It does look like Microsoft is trying harder and harder to lock down PC gaming. See Gabe's [0] and Tim Sweeney's [1] complaints.
[0]:http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/07/steams-newell-windows-... [1]:http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/03/tim-sweeney-to-microso...
Re: Microsoft forks Unreal Engine 4 and ports it to Universal Windows Platform
#10I hope it's not an EEE move[1]? MS aren't new to such things. I.e. make Unreal Engine work with certain things only on UWP platforms, putting everything else at a disadvantage. I don't have much trust in good intentions of MS when gaming and 3D graphics are concerned, given how they are dead bent on lock-in with DX12, while the industry is collaborating on Vulkan. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_an…
It would be EEE if they, for example, ported DirectX to Linux. But here they're just ported other product to run on their "a-la Android for desktop" system. Possibly evil but not exactly EEE.