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Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Kinda funny how the NASA & NSF sites see a lot of Linux usage (because their visitors are geekier) but less Android usage (because they are more upper-class, and Apple devices are a status signal).

Are Apple devices really seen as a status device?

Maybe I don't see it because I don't need validation.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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I am visiting elderly relatives this week, so I get my anecdotal updates. The Windows machine was under a towel (for dust) which basically means it isn't being used anymore. The story: after clicking no every time, his Windows 7 machine auto-upgraded to Windows 10. He has figured out how load Internet Explorer to find his links, but is baffled by the rest of Windows. So he went out and upgraded his phone to a new Sam…

Linux distros becoming easier to use than Win10, I know people in their 70 that are happy Manjro users and you don't have to be tech savvy to use it. The only problem i heard there was fonts, but even that is usually still better than windoze on most distros. Ubuntu MATE is particularly good for accessibility, with magnification if your hardware handles Compiz correctly otherwise Marco (Compton GPU compositor) is gre…

I haven't had any font issues with Manjaro (Deepin community release) or Antergos (MATE). Text looks great right out of the box. I can't say the same for vanilla Arch, but that's to be expected really.

I've been using The Deepin Desktop Environment for a bit over a month now, and I have to say it is easily the best desktop environment out there for Windows users right now. It looks close enough to 7 and 10 to be familiar, but it's far easier to use. Deepin OS is now my go-to recommendation for new Linux users, especially since they have an agreement with Codeweavers to include Crossover in the distro free of charge.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife and I have been using a chromebook as an inexpensive browser at home, with our work laptops if we need anything more intensive (we don't). We're looking to get one for my mother in law as well, to give her a smoother computing experience.

If ChromeOS weren't a security nightmare (Google have complete access to one's system), I'd recommend it in a flash to non-technical folks. How long will it be until organisations such as Google & Mozilla realise that people cannot trust them? And how long will it be until people realise that they cannot trust organisations such as Google & Mozilla?

Install GalliumOS[0] on a Chromebook. Security nightmare averted.

0. https://galliumos.org/

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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I think Windows has become obsolete. For most people it's now something you choose to install in increasingly annoying update windows vs automatically installed on new PCs that used to sell like hotcakes. Everyone was automatically opted out of Windows 10 as they kept using old computers with no compelling reasons to buy a new PC again (probably 'ever' for most people). Phones usurped a lot of tasks that are more con…

I'm not sure there's a single task that I've found more convenient to do on a phone than a desktop.

Taking photos :)

But seriously, the small screen and accelerometers viabilize different kinds of interactions. Some games manage to be fun on mobile, while they would obviously be very dull on desktops. I would not be surprised if there were serious applications exploiting those features too.

And there is the "taking photos" category, where I was only half joking. There's a set of tasks that the desktop can't even handle.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If ChromeOS weren't a security nightmare (Google have complete access to one's system), I'd recommend it in a flash to non-technical folks. How long will it be until organisations such as Google & Mozilla realise that people cannot trust them? And how long will it be until people realise that they cannot trust organisations such as Google & Mozilla?

Install GalliumOS[0] on a Chromebook. Security nightmare averted. 0. https://galliumos.org/

That looks pretty cool, but why GalliumOS instead of just plain Debian?

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Kinda funny how the NASA & NSF sites see a lot of Linux usage (because their visitors are geekier) but less Android usage (because they are more upper-class, and Apple devices are a status signal).

Are Apple devices really seen as a status device? Maybe I don't see it because I don't need validation.

> Are Apple devices really seen as a status device?

By the sort of person who'd rather pay extra for a Mac than just use Linux, sure. I remember seeing an acquaintance wax eloquent to another acquaintance about how perfectly designed the iPhone is (it's not: it's a plain black box) — it was really just a way of showing to his acquaintance how wise and clever he is to appreciate the emperor's new clothes.

> Maybe I don't see it because I don't need validation.

Me neither, which is why I haven't bought an Apple computer in this millennium.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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I think Windows has become obsolete. For most people it's now something you choose to install in increasingly annoying update windows vs automatically installed on new PCs that used to sell like hotcakes. Everyone was automatically opted out of Windows 10 as they kept using old computers with no compelling reasons to buy a new PC again (probably 'ever' for most people). Phones usurped a lot of tasks that are more con…

Well unless apple releases iPad Pro that can actually run programs instead of "apps" from store then maybe. But it's not the case. And for Chromebook, I don't think it's even close.

What's the difference between running "apps" and "actually running programs"?

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Kinda funny how the NASA & NSF sites see a lot of Linux usage (because their visitors are geekier) but less Android usage (because they are more upper-class, and Apple devices are a status signal).

Are Apple devices really seen as a status device? Maybe I don't see it because I don't need validation.

>Are Apple devices really seen as a status device?

By people that don't understand why people would actually prefer an Apple device over the competition, certainly. It's one of the anti-Apple crowd's favorite narratives. We're all just sheep that buy into Apple's marketing.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife and I have been using a chromebook as an inexpensive browser at home, with our work laptops if we need anything more intensive (we don't). We're looking to get one for my mother in law as well, to give her a smoother computing experience.

If ChromeOS weren't a security nightmare (Google have complete access to one's system), I'd recommend it in a flash to non-technical folks. How long will it be until organisations such as Google & Mozilla realise that people cannot trust them? And how long will it be until people realise that they cannot trust organisations such as Google & Mozilla?

Well, you can't trust anyone 100% but as organizations go I don't have much problem with Google having access. There was a recent report of 1 in 10 people in England and Wales being victims of cybercrime last year including 2.5m incidents of bank and credit card fraud. That's what I'd worry about which Google are probably better at blocking than most.

Re: Windows dips below 50% of web traffic to US govt websites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are Apple devices really seen as a status device? Maybe I don't see it because I don't need validation.

> Are Apple devices really seen as a status device? By the sort of person who'd rather pay extra for a Mac than just use Linux, sure. I remember seeing an acquaintance wax eloquent to another acquaintance about how perfectly designed the iPhone is (it's not: it's a plain black box) — it was really just a way of showing to his acquaintance how wise and clever he is to appreciate the emperor's new clothes. > Maybe I do…

iPhone's are quite nicely designed. Nothing's perfect though.
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