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Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#61
post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

So I don't clog up the rest of the comment thread I'll add my atom/vscode/sublime thoughts here.

I've been a long time sublime user and found it very very difficult to switch to anything else, mainly for performance reasons. But I decided to give atom and vscode a real try for a couple of weeks each. These are my findings and results.

I started with VScode when dotnet-core was officially released for OSX. The debugging features, performance, and usability were awesome. I was going to stop right here and jump to vscode except for these reasons.

- Tabs. I know they're coming, but every time I had to go looking for the correct file I was ripped out of my train of thought.

- Shortcuts. They're completely different to sublime/atom and I didn't feel like learning a bunch of F-key shortcuts.

So I decided to give atom another go. Right off the bat I had a very nice looking editor. I appreciate the settings UI that isn't just a text file. The project view on the left is way better than sublime's. A major pain point of mine with sublime was opening a file with CMD + T, but then being unable to find it in the project view on the left. Atom has a reveal in project feature that expands the tree and focuses the file. The git status indicators on each file are nice too. The shortcuts are similar enough to sublime that there's no learning curve.

Atom has a lot of really nice quality of life improvements over sublime text. Startup is really slow. Incremental search is really slow. When I'm viewing large text files I still load them up in sublime text. But for the majority of my coding now, I'll be using atom.

I do quite a bit of C# development in a windows VM, so I might fire up vscode for that use case if dotnet core becomes an option for the app I'm working on.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#62
post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

Not today. It's a real joy slogging through these gratuitously negative comments. Feels just like any thread about Google on HN.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#64
I moved to atom from sublime and really love it. However, it's s l o w . . . Not only the start up time, but on non trival projects it lags attempting to code color the file and periodically lags up to 5 seconds on save. Nevertheless, even with the warts it's pretty neat.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#65
post #58
post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

Seems like no one is giving love! I enjoy Atom and I use it daily (I do website at some webagency). It is fast, even with Photoshop, Indesign, and multiple Chrome tabs opened. Pros: its handy and has so many addons. Not crippled with useless toolbars like Eclips-y editors. Cons: Sadly, it's still missing a "go-to-method-declaration" feature (did I miss something? ), and is awfuly buggy when editing over FTP.

Absoltely agree. Love the UI, add-ons(love the terminal add on). I agree go-to decalaration needs to be fixed. There are a couple of packages that try to do it, but none of them do a good job. Atom needs to fix this on priority, it's a basic feature that must work out of the box. I have got this working by manually generating ctags(installed with brew) and then using the same go to declaration option. Works like a charm like it should have :)

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#66
post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

So I don't clog up the rest of the comment thread I'll add my atom/vscode/sublime thoughts here. I've been a long time sublime user and found it very very difficult to switch to anything else, mainly for performance reasons. But I decided to give atom and vscode a real try for a couple of weeks each. These are my findings and results. I started with VScode when dotnet-core was officially released for OSX. The debuggi…

Tabs are already there, since version 1.3

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#67
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems like no one is giving love! I enjoy Atom and I use it daily (I do website at some webagency). It is fast, even with Photoshop, Indesign, and multiple Chrome tabs opened. Pros: its handy and has so many addons. Not crippled with useless toolbars like Eclips-y editors. Cons: Sadly, it's still missing a "go-to-method-declaration" feature (did I miss something? ), and is awfuly buggy when editing over FTP.

Absoltely agree. Love the UI, add-ons(love the terminal add on). I agree go-to decalaration needs to be fixed. There are a couple of packages that try to do it, but none of them do a good job. Atom needs to fix this on priority, it's a basic feature that must work out of the box. I have got this working by manually generating ctags(installed with brew) and then using the same go to declaration option. Works like a ch…

which terminal addon do you use? As I am extremely interested to use terminal within Atom.The other day, I was using terminal-plus and it seems to have some issues.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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post #58
post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

Seems like no one is giving love! I enjoy Atom and I use it daily (I do website at some webagency). It is fast, even with Photoshop, Indesign, and multiple Chrome tabs opened. Pros: its handy and has so many addons. Not crippled with useless toolbars like Eclips-y editors. Cons: Sadly, it's still missing a "go-to-method-declaration" feature (did I miss something? ), and is awfuly buggy when editing over FTP.

GoToMethod is not perfect. However there are various auto completion plugins that are language specific and sometimes do a better job.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#69
post #64

I moved to atom from sublime and really love it. However, it's s l o w . . . Not only the start up time, but on non trival projects it lags attempting to code color the file and periodically lags up to 5 seconds on save. Nevertheless, even with the warts it's pretty neat.

What plugins have you got installed? And what OS?

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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post #52

For once, on an atom release thread, can we have a discussion about atom and this release rather than endless threads about folks preferring vscode or sublime?

So I don't clog up the rest of the comment thread I'll add my atom/vscode/sublime thoughts here. I've been a long time sublime user and found it very very difficult to switch to anything else, mainly for performance reasons. But I decided to give atom and vscode a real try for a couple of weeks each. These are my findings and results. I started with VScode when dotnet-core was officially released for OSX. The debuggi…

Sublime also has the reveal in sidebar functionality. At least my setup has, not sure if it came with the enhanced sidebar plugin, but you need that one anyway to be able to work properly.

Indeed I liked the good looking atom without configuration. Lately I switched back and use sublime with the material theme which is great, but atom is much easier to style, or doesn't event need it.

In the end it was startup performance that killed atom for me. I use it to view all sorts of single files as well and each time it took ages to open a file which I wanted to look at for 20 seconds.

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