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Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#31

Does it still use A Terabyte Of Memory ?

Unless they start using native code it will always be like that.

VSCode from Microsoft is also wrapped in electron and uses a fraction of what Atom is consuming. Not being native has nothing to do here.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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I have participated a bit in the Atom.io open source repository, but now I am back to Sublime. It's so fast and reliable compared to Atom.io.

Wholeheartedly agree. I just tested this new version out. I really keep trying to use Atom, but it's just unacceptable currently when compared to Sublime. Very slow startups and laggy. This new version takes 5-10 seconds before I can start coding, that's far too slow. With every update I keep hoping things are faster, but only marginally so. VS code loads in less than 3 seconds and is a lot more snappy. I don't under…

5-10 seconds seems slow. Atom for me launches in 3ish seconds. VSCode marginally faster than Atom to launch. Sublime around .5 of a second.

None of those are deal breakers for me.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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post #12
post #6

Each time there's an Atom release announcement, I check if they've finally fixed AltGr. They didn't. Most non-US keyboard layouts are still broken.

They? Atom is a collaborative effort, you can fix that yourself.

> you can fix that yourself

I can't and neither can you.

You can't go back in time and tell them that they shouldn't use Alt+Ctrl for any of the built-in shortcuts.

You also can't get rid of those shortcuts.

You also can't finalize that UI Events spec and just land those features in Chromium.

They could have gotten rid of those shortcuts, but they decided against it.

Anyhow, Chrome 51+ (current stable is 52) does support the required part of the spec now.

https://jsfiddle.net/1zhcpj8a/

I do get:

  Alt AltLeft
  AltGraph AltRight
Which means you can now easily and accurately tell if AltGr was pressed. This release of Atom could have fixed it.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#34
post #25
post #7

I have participated a bit in the Atom.io open source repository, but now I am back to Sublime. It's so fast and reliable compared to Atom.io.

Wholeheartedly agree. I just tested this new version out. I really keep trying to use Atom, but it's just unacceptable currently when compared to Sublime. Very slow startups and laggy. This new version takes 5-10 seconds before I can start coding, that's far too slow. With every update I keep hoping things are faster, but only marginally so. VS code loads in less than 3 seconds and is a lot more snappy. I don't under…

Why is waiting 5-10 seconds for your editor to open such a problem?

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#35
post #34
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wholeheartedly agree. I just tested this new version out. I really keep trying to use Atom, but it's just unacceptable currently when compared to Sublime. Very slow startups and laggy. This new version takes 5-10 seconds before I can start coding, that's far too slow. With every update I keep hoping things are faster, but only marginally so. VS code loads in less than 3 seconds and is a lot more snappy. I don't under…

Why is waiting 5-10 seconds for your editor to open such a problem?

Yeah I never resonated with this complaint. I guess if you are constantly opening different directories/files I could see it being annoying, but I end up opening it once in the morning when I get into the office and it is up all day.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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post #34
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wholeheartedly agree. I just tested this new version out. I really keep trying to use Atom, but it's just unacceptable currently when compared to Sublime. Very slow startups and laggy. This new version takes 5-10 seconds before I can start coding, that's far too slow. With every update I keep hoping things are faster, but only marginally so. VS code loads in less than 3 seconds and is a lot more snappy. I don't under…

Why is waiting 5-10 seconds for your editor to open such a problem?

For the same reason waiting 1-2 minutes for your laptop to boot is.

Also because people often open/close tons of small files during the day instead of opening a project and working on it for hours.

Plus, the slugginess extends beyond startup time, into working with large files (were large = puny for other editors' standard) and other activities.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#37
post #12
post #6

Each time there's an Atom release announcement, I check if they've finally fixed AltGr. They didn't. Most non-US keyboard layouts are still broken.

They? Atom is a collaborative effort, you can fix that yourself.

"Can" implies both ability (e.g. Javascript programming) and time to delve into the internals to find the issue, go through the procedure of submitting a patch etc, which is not a given the parent has, whether Atom is "collaborative" or not.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah my PC is not fast enough to run atom without lag, but it runs sublime perfectly. Maybe when I get the latest i7 I will try out Atom again.

It should not take an i7 processor to run a text editor. I mean no disrespect, but either something is very wrong with your computer, or something is very wrong with this software.

For years and years it took a very powerful computer to get decent performance out of Emacs.

Emacs only seems speedy now because computers have finally caught up.

Either Atom will get faster, or it will add so much value it's okay being slow.

And then computers will eventually catch up, just like they did with Emacs.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#39
I don't want to criticise it too much as it is completely free, so I will simply say that it would be hard to convince me to try it for a third time.

Microsoft VSCode is my editor, and it took me a long time to adopt it. They lacked a lot of features, but in the end delivering a few features that worked extremely well and adding the important ones as they could (thanks for tab support) won me over. Shipping a broken kitchen sink just turned me off. It had critical flaws that made either me, or the editor and my sometimes unsaved code, rage quit. I have used it cumulatively about 6 months over thd last 2 years.

Tl;dr at least as far as text editors go, 99% correct with a narrow feature set beats 75% stable witha wide one.

Re: Atom 1.9 and 1.10 beta

#40
post #7

I have participated a bit in the Atom.io open source repository, but now I am back to Sublime. It's so fast and reliable compared to Atom.io.

Yeah I've been on Sublime for months without looking back.

No reason why a few hundred line markdown file with Atom should bog down an i5 quad core with 16gb of ram to point where typing 1 key takes forever while Sublime operates on it instantly.

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