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Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by ronjouch »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

If you're familiar with Ruby/Rails, I don't see any reason to switch. They're both good large frameworks. As you said, yes Django may sometimes feel a bit less "magic", due to Python's "explicit is better than implicit" motto, https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0020/

If you want to give it a try anyway, Two Scoops of Django is a wonderful book, by two warm contributors from the Python community. https://www.twoscoopspress.com/

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by nprescott »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

I can't answer your first question, they're similar high-level web frameworks - do you want to learn another?

As for books, I'd recommend Two Scoops of Django[1]. Between that and the tutorial you should be up to speed pretty quickly. Maybe read it and see if anything appeals to you about Django?

[1]: https://www.twoscoopspress.com/

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by Walkman »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

My suggestion: don't bother. The "less magic" things comes because of Python's explicitness (not because of Django at all).

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by hrayr »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

The typical recommendation to getting started with Django, is to go through the tutorial included in the documentation [0]. This is the path I took several years ago, it'll get you up and running in no time.

I found Two Scoops of Django[0] to be a great resource if you want to follow the best practices for a Django app. The authors are also very active in the community.

[0] https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.10/intro/tutorial01/

[1] https://www.twoscoopspress.com/products/two-scoops-of-django...

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by Walkman »

hrayr wrote: post #3

I'm still stuck with Django 1.4 for one of my projects, it's such a big hurdle to upgrade it. I wonder if it's worth to just straight up rewrite it in 1.10.

It's better to do it step by step: 1.4 to 1.5, 1.5 to 1.6, etc. You need to go through the release notes and have a good test coverage.

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by heyts »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

If you plan to use Django as an API server, you might be interested in Lightweight Django (http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032502.do), which shows you how to design and build an API server using Django, Django Rest Framework (another great Django related project) and Backbone on the front-end.

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by CuriouslyC »

dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

There is no point unless you are going to using a lot of Python's scientific computing apparatus, or you want the ability to rewrite "hot" code in Cython for better performance. If you are primarily focused on social-esque or CRUD-heavy apps there isn't really an upside vs Rails.

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by mamcx »

hrayr wrote: post #3

I'm still stuck with Django 1.4 for one of my projects, it's such a big hurdle to upgrade it. I wonder if it's worth to just straight up rewrite it in 1.10.

Depends. Re-write help in clean code way more that just a upgrade ('cause is a bigger refactoring), but could take longer time.

Normally I prefer that, and translate code manually. even more if the jump is big. Except if the goal is just stay current.

Re: Django 1.10 released

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Post by CuriouslyC »

heyts wrote: post #17
dchuk wrote: post #5

As a Rails dude...is there any reason for me to learn Django at all? Everything I've heard about it is that it provides a lot of sane defaults (like Rails) but has much less "magic" than Rails is typically thought to have. And if the answer to my question is yes, what books/tutorials/screencasts/courses to people recommend to get started with?

If you plan to use Django as an API server, you might be interested in Lightweight Django ( http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920032502.do ), which shows you how to design and build an API server using Django, Django Rest Framework (another great Django related project) and Backbone on the front-end.

2010 called, it wants its tech stack back ;)
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