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‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

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Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#32

I installed Brave when it first came out as the ad plan sounded very interesting. There was another attempt using bitcoin in the browser to 'bypass' ads, but unfortunately, it wasn't have been successful (in the network effect sense) I'm still waiting for the LastPass option :)

Lastpass is available in the latest version I have (0.11.1). However, it doesn't get a menu icon anywhere in the title bar. You have to use the right-click contextual menu to use it if autofill fails.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#33
Does anyone here think this might be one of those historical moments like when the Mosaic browser was released?

I see some potential for what could be. But, I don't see the value proposition for the average consumer. I just don't think there's enough value in what they're offering, to be a major breakthrough that will revolutionize the internet. I see it as more of a niche offering.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#34

The only people I know who care about ads and have them enabled do so because they feel they must reward the content creators. If you are replacing the content creator ads with your own, there is absolutely no reason to have ads enabled at all.

Brave shares the revenue from their client-side ads with the content sites.

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#35

I installed Brave when it first came out as the ad plan sounded very interesting. There was another attempt using bitcoin in the browser to 'bypass' ads, but unfortunately, it wasn't have been successful (in the network effect sense) I'm still waiting for the LastPass option :)

Lastpass is available in the latest version I have (0.11.1). However, it doesn't get a menu icon anywhere in the title bar. You have to use the right-click contextual menu to use it if autofill fails.

didn't know they updated it, i'll give it a go later tonight. thanks! any bitcoin related updates? their seed money is all from bitcoin VCs so there must be something going on..

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#36
post #24

Shouldn't a browser working the other way round should be implemented : you can not use any adblocker but in exchange of your eyeballs usage you get a small percentage of the ads costs ?

I don't think you (the viewer) could earn anything meaningful in that system. Afaik adsense gives the website owner profits on the order of ~0.01 cent / ad view. So "a small percentage" of that would give the viewer basically nothing.

also "eyeball usage" sounds about as dystopian as "human resources" :D

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#37

Last time I looked at Brave, it was replacing some served ads with its own ads. I do not think that's ok.

And I think a site's ToS could potentially forbid this and thus provide an avenue to sue either you, Brave or both. Aside from that, I don't think the "my device, my choice" adblock arguments go here. I think it's pretty obviously immoral.

You send me some html, css and Javascript from YOUR domain to MY computer. I reserve the right to do what I want with it.

YOU have NO right to determine what I do with it after you send it to me. It is pointless to think that rules regarding that can be enforced anyways. To me that is the reality of the situation, its like we are debating if gravity should pull us down or not.

Edit: for civility (with lack of sleep as the excuse).

Re: ‘Bitcoin Browser’ Brave Raises $4.5M, Readies for 1.0 Launch

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's very much ok. At least someone is paying attention to the ads, and curating them so they're not the same awful ads we've been getting. If the current browsers cared anything about our viewing experience we would never get kicked into the app store, or bombarded by some autoplay video, but we do and it's not stopping. Bring on Brave.

In my opinion, replacing ads is worse than simply ad-blocking. Imagine a scenario where a replaced ad actually degraded the website's performance more so than the website's own ads, which is not all that far-fetched, and users end up blaming the website for having crappy ads. Additionally, what if Google and Mozilla started doing that with their browsers, would you still be okay with it?

Brave has the incentive to want to make their browser the best way to see websites, as such its in their interest to make sure that doesn't happen.

In any case its easy to turn off. In my experience any user who can't do that is the type that doesn't care either way.

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